Archers thread #193: Christmas in Ambridge! Don't expect any wise men (or women). Discuss The Archers here.

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What do we think - best Christmas ever followed by a nice quiet New Year? No, me neither. We have the tractor run to look forward to , and then whatever they've got lined up for the 75th anniversary of the first ever episode - New Year's Day 1951. I can't imagine that anybody involved with the programme then expected it would still be on the air 75 years later. I wonder what they would make of the current direction. The lack of farming content would be a surprise, given that was the whole reason for devising the programme in the first place.

Over to you!

Clive Horribin? WTF is going on there?

How has Clive not been seen?

And as for the doom-laden music.

That was actually one of the questions my DD was asked at an Oxbridge interview for philosophy, but in the context of Dr Who.

Loved it. Although Clive and his recordings was perhaps jumping the shark. Thought Brian was going to have a heart attack (and I'd then look forward to THAT investigation) and Emma have a complete breakdown. Brad was true to character and offered insight into his character/ relationship. Not sure I'm any clearer on who clonked George though.
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well, it sort of grew on me. But i didn't love it.
And now i am rage-listening to the Podcast

The 🔮 is railing against damp squids and red herrings. It does say it's had glimpses of blood-stained tartan...

I want to know who called the ambulance? It was already on its way when Mike called. Calls will have been recorded, so we may find out.

Just finished the 7pm episode. TOLD you Emmur would be insufferable and George isn’t even dead (yet?)

Can anyone tell me if all the little extra short episodes from today are available to catch up on? I've just looked on the app and doesn't seem like they are? 😭

Tracey or Jazzer dunnit

That was crap imo.

Back in Priestley's Edwardian factory town he could ignore things like due process in order to push home the sentimental points, but that combination of things we'd already heard, and Clive's voyeurism, afaik invented for the occasion, was both plodding and exasperating.

Very sorry I wasted 45 minutes on it.

The extra short bits from today were all included in the thing at 7.15

I took that to mean the ambulance had been dispatched as soon as Eddie gave the initial details, then he asked again so the operator reassured him it was already on its way.

Tracey dunnit and Jazzer's covering for her? He called the ambulance?

I normally find the 'show don't tell' cliché too CIA, but we were well and truly told this evening. Which suggests a (rather unfair) lack of BBC faith in the SWs' ability to do the job within the normal parameters of TA.

i was fairly ok with it, as a "literary construct" until Clive was brought in.
Then i was just eye-rolling and waiting for it all to end.

That's not how I heard it, although you may be right.

But weren’t they all asking who had called for the ambulance - I think it’s a clue, somehow.

Amber?!

‘Er wot done it but then realised she didn't want George to die.

But Tracey and Jazzetr don’t make sense. Neither sufficiently wronged by George and they are both too nice to commit a deliberate act of violence

Jazzer was made out to be shifty in not wanting to search where George was found.
Hitting from behind without confrontation is a cold blooded attack, so I don't think Jazzer.

Marky associate, or Harrison, or Clive is my bet.

Amber is conspicuously absent at present. And why aren’t the police interviewing her?

Because the police aren't interviewing anyone. For all we know, drunk George slipped and fell and hit his own head.

yes
afaik the call handlers insist on the person calling doing CPR even if its clearly pointless

gosh i'm slow on the uptake: that was all in George's head?