rearfacing pushchair that you DON'T have to remove the seat to fold down?

[WelliesAndPyjamas]

Can anyone tell me which pushchair can:

a) be rear facing

and

b) NOT have to remove the seat to fold down?

Thanks!

Most people find the Loola rubbish, I'd cross that one off the list personally.

Yeah cross the Loola off but leave the Loola Up on - it's a bit love/hate so best to try one out if possible (then buy second hand?)

Oh and does anyone know about the Britax Vigour? That is supposed to be a good pushchair, not sure whether it folds with seat or not.

Chicco Trio folds up umbrella fold which is a massive bonus...no faffing with remoniving seat and or whells to get in car etc.

My Chicco is the earlier model so not rear facing but is still going strong after 2 ds's....youngest now 2.5. Its v. sturdy for a toddler too...im the only one of my original baby group who didnt need to buy a new stroller once baby hit a year old.

Gett he carry cot too thopugh....tis lovely to have a proper pram for a newborn.

offer on bee here bee

Out of 2nd hand inexpensive ones available on ebay. . Look for a well taken care of silver cross wayfarer.

noooooo i can't let you buy a loola up !!

It was my dream buggy when DS3 was a baby, it's now the worst thing i ever bought and being skipped the second DS3 decides he wants to walk everywhere!

It has no proper upright position, its HEAVY (really really heavy if you carry it folded) if you fold with the seat on its enormous, its rickety, the straps are too short (although apparently you can get longer ones now but mothercare won't give me any), the shopping basket is rubbish, teraincover is hard to put on, the seat unit is far too small for a 2 year old to have the hood on too! DS3 is average sized 2 year old. When he sits in it with the hood up, his head is bulging thru .

DOn't do it !!

atethebillygoat - thanks all the silver cross wayfarers I've found are flat fold. do you know if there are umbrella fold models available? think i prefer the flexibility of that for flights and car boots

such passion for and against the loola and loola up! i need to find somewhere with them in stock to see for myself, I think

Hi - so far as I know - all wayfarers are flat fold. They're quiet neat and fit in most car boots - boots did havea a deal on the loola up - not sure if it's still on.
loola up half price in boots online shop