Joovy caboose ultralite vs. P&T Sport

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HELP!!

I have a ds who will be just 2 when my ds2 is born. We need to buy a car seat anyway for baby. Ds1 is still very young, enjoys his pram, but rarely falls asleep in pram.

Have been eyeing P&T sport as a potential - light, easy to get on bus, looks nice, easy to move etc.

BUT....just spotted Joovy caboose ultralite, which is a very good idea....and would be able to stick carseat on pram while having toddler on pram too.

BUT....is it better than P&T? Am I shooting myself in foot by not having a relaxng seat for ds1 to fall asleep in? Will it be crap over the winter? Will I be faced with multiple tantrums by ds1 trying to kamikaze off of on board seat? Is that even possible??

hi,personly i would choose the p&t,a 2 year old will proberly still need a seat,imo all of mine have.

Thanks!

Did your kids stay in for a relatively long time?
My ds is a big boy and is probably about 6 months bigger than his actual age. Is there quite a lot of room?

well my son is huge,hes three and a half and in size 5-6 clothes,hes very tall,he fits in both seats,but im sure hes proberly to heavy for the back seat,i did hate the p&t in baby mode,ie with tot on top and baby underneath,never felt vey confident in top seat(as he was so big).also it can be haevy and alkward to get on and of a bus.

Eeek, that's what I'm most worried about, as don't drive so bus is only mode of transport (plus they have just helpfully changed all of the buses to accommodate only 1 pram at a time, as opposed to the 3 they used to carry - buggy space is much smaller).

Thanks buggyjo - very helpful :)

Joovy Caboose very unsuitable for a newborn as you can only use it with the carseat as well as being horribly uncomfortable for the toddler. Your best bet is probably the P&T which is not great for the newborn stage but pretty fab once the baby can sit up.

Another option is to get a good sling (a mei-tai or ergo-style, NOT baby bjorn) and carry the baby while pushing the toddler, then when they're both a bit bigger you can take another look at doubles.