Floorplan attached; how would you turn this into a kitchen/diner?

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Hi we're struggling to visualise how we could have a large kitchen/diner room in this layout as we think knocking through the kitchen and 2nd reception room would create a very small living area.

We also discussed trying to 'move' the wall between the two receptions slightly further back and get rid of the doorway from the hallway to the 2nd reception but no idea how this would structurally as the pillars are still up from when it was originally knocked through.

Any ideas?

You could remove the pillars and have a steel put in instead. Put a stud wall in further back into the rear reception room in line with the wall the kitchen door is in then knock through from the kitchen to the rear reception room.

What about extending out at the back of the rear reception to be in line with the kitchen too? You'd then have some space to create a utility room separate from the kitchen diner somewhere in the space.

This is exactly the layout we had until February (think our kitchen is bigger though, it was extended before we moved in)
We closed up the doorway from reception room 2 to the hall (we added a door into reception room 1 but you already have one) and closed up the opening between the reception rooms and essentially moved it to the other wall between kitchen and reception room 2 which we use as a playroom and have a very small sofa in

I don't know the measurements of our living room now but it doesn't matter really as all that's in it now is a sofa, chair, tv & sideboard
We spend all day in the back two rooms and only generally use the living room after dinner so it doesn't need lots of space, it depends how you plan to use your rooms really but for us it works well

agree that you'd end up with a big kitchen / living / diner and a small sitting room - would that suit how you plan to use it?

Think about if you'd want the smaller room as the playroom (so grown-up sitting area in kitchen) or a grown-up sitting room with the big TV, (so knackered sofa and lego boxes in the kitchen).

I might even think about reinstating the original wall between fo minimise noise from 'noisy' to 'quiet' zone.

How old are dcs?

Cheapest way:
Reinstate the wall beyween the two reception rooms and then knock through the kitchen/diner.

Better way:
Totally remove the wall between the two receptions rooms as it is at the moment.
Build a new wall in line with the kichen to make a bigger, separate front reception room.
Then knock through the kitchen diner.

Thanks all - one option is adding an extension so the kitchen is lined up with the rest of the house but I'm thinking that would be the most expensive solution, moving the wall will be the 2nd most expensive, and just knocking through 'as is' would be the cheapest - but maybe not the best use of space!!

Just feels a bit unbalanced to me, having such a small 'sitting area' but guess it's an option if we don't mind hanging out in the kitchen/diner!

Thanks for your inputs!

I'd fill the opening between the two rooms and fill the doorway to the rear reception. Then I'd knock down the wall between the kitchen and rear reception. Longline of kitchen cabinets in corner of reception up to filled door opening. Maybe a U? Adjacent table overlooking the garden. Sofa and toys in old kitchen area. Option to square off in future.

Block up wall between 2 reception rooms but further back, enough to fit a sofa in. This should square off the kitchen rear reception. Knock through and you'll have a large kitchen diner. Can you fit a downstairs toilet under the stairs?
If you can afford it have an extension squaring off the rear and a bigger kitchen/ diner. Might be able to fit a toilet or utility between the reception rooms and keep the doorway for rear reception room.