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Which wood/dual fuel burning stove would you go for out of these two?

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Lioninthesun · 10/12/2013 15:36

This is the one I originally wanted:www.harridgestoves.co.uk/prod/108/morso-owl-cleanheat-3410-multifuel-stoves
And this is the one the builder is recommending to save us £550
chesneys.co.uk/products/stoves/wood-burning-stoves/the-salisbury-5kw
I liked the owls on the side of the Morso, as well as the space underneath. It also seems slightly more efficient and has more power. However I prefer the handle and slightly bigger window of the Chesney...
Any suggestions/opinions from the wise MN'ers out there?
TIA

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Lioninthesun · 10/12/2013 15:41

I think I may have answered my own question! I just realised the builders' option was a wood burner only and we have 20 large bags of coal from the old coal cellar to get through, which was why I was looking at multi-fuel.
I still have a thing for the owls anyway

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MummytoMog · 10/12/2013 16:18

Just make sure your chimney can cope - you need a higher grade liner if you're burning coal. You could always sell the coal you know, and stick to wood. I like wood. It's nice. And cheaper than coal.

didireallysaythat · 10/12/2013 16:19

I like morsos and Harridge stoves were great last time I dealt with them. 20 bags of coal doesn't seem like a lot (unless you plan to get more..) - after these will you just be using wood ? You could probably sell the coal and buy a single fuel burner.. but I'm not sure if dual fuel ones are more expensive (I've only ever burnt wood)

didireallysaythat · 10/12/2013 16:20

Mummy has a good point. If you don't have one already, the flue system you need will probably cost you more than the stove anyway.

MummytoMog · 10/12/2013 16:22

And the Salisbury comes as a multi-fuel stove too. We have a Carron multi fuel and we have never used it for anything other than wood. Mine is cream and looks beyootiful.

MinimalistMommi · 10/12/2013 17:41

Go for a Clearview a Pioneer...?

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Lioninthesun · 10/12/2013 17:51

It is a new house and the builders assure me they have put in the best flue for all types of burning in that is on the market. The building control inspectors will be all over them like a rash if they mess something like that up, so I am assuming they know what they are doing...

We have underfloor heating, which is really warm even on the lowest setting and two trees in our garden, so we were hoping that this would do us for fuel, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to have a dual fuel to use up the coal - when I say 20 bags I mean as big or bigger than bin bags - and then we can stick in other things to burn as well if we ever run low on wood.

So does the Salisbury self clean as well? And is the multi fuel option as cheap?

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Lioninthesun · 10/12/2013 17:55

The Clearview Pioneer 400 looks nice Mommi or, with the wink, do you know something bad about it? I'm open to suggestions :)

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MinimalistMommi · 10/12/2013 17:57

Seriously I know it wasn't in your original options but the Clearview pioneer self cleans and keeps really clear glass and is multifuel too so with the correct flue can burn coal as well as wood so it might be worth checking out?

Have your builders put in correct flue? You need to have a special grade of flue to burn multifuel. You can just get flues for stoves that you only intend to burn wood in...

MinimalistMommi · 10/12/2013 17:58

No the wink was meant to be ' I know you've said help me choose from two but I'm going to throw in a third option for you' ! X

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Lioninthesun · 10/12/2013 17:59

They say they went for the highest grade on the market.

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MinimalistMommi · 10/12/2013 18:01

We will be having the Clearview installed next spring! Can't wait! It's meant to be a beautiful efficient stove, sort of the Rolls Royce of stoves really all though Morso are meant to be very good too. My sister has just had one installed, she beat me to it!

MinimalistMommi · 10/12/2013 18:04

Lion you should be Ok then. Can you ask them the actual name of flue? They should be able to tell you. Then you could always check behind their back by ringing up somewhere like Clearview and saying, 'I'm looking at what stove to install, if I choose a Clearview and want to burn coal as well as wood what grade flue liner do I need, my builders have already installed --- and I want to check it is OK!'

amazonianwoman · 10/12/2013 19:35

My Morso 3410 owl is being fitted tomorrow. I CAN'T WAIT

Several friends have and recommend Morsos.

Oh, and I bought mine from Harridges too - great price and nice people to deal with

1sassylassy · 10/12/2013 19:46

If it is ordinary household coal,you should not use it on a multi fuel stove as it clogs the liner,smokeless fuels are ok.

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Lioninthesun · 10/12/2013 21:51

I will have to ask them the name of the flue. I am a little wary of lining though as have heard horror stories about it not being necessary with new houses and just a money spinner for installation - red tape from EU if you like. I should look into it more though. Been so much else on starting a build from scratch I overlooked this, thinking the builders knew all about it...however perhaps I should be wary just in case!

The coal is from my other Victorian house which had a coal cellar, which I scraped out and re-purposed as a large under stairs cupboard...so I imagine it is old and not 'smokeless'. Eeek.

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Lioninthesun · 11/12/2013 14:15

Apparently they cannot get the Clearview via their suppliers. So I think I will stick to the Morso over the Chesney, although he confirms it would be £200 more for a multi fuel Chesney 5.

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MinimalistMommi · 11/12/2013 17:30

Could you order the Clearview direct from suppliers? The Morso will be lovely though.

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Lioninthesun · 11/12/2013 21:46

Does anyone know if the Chesney is self cleaning, as the Morso is and I can't find any info on that on the web... I am erring towards the Morso, because I don't know much about Chesney! That may be a silly reason?

Need to make a decision tomorrow and then it is done!

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willowwarbler · 11/12/2013 23:10

All I can tell you is that we have had a morso (squirrell) for over twenty years, and it is the best thing in our house.
Well made, reliable, punches out the heat,burns anything.
The thing about Danish stoves,is they've been making them for such a long time, that they sorted out all the niggles and they are designed really well.
The Owl looks lovely I think.

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Lioninthesun · 12/12/2013 09:57

Thank you. I will stick to what I originally researched all those months ago and stay with the Morso. So keen to see it all finished I'm getting swayed at the final hurdles! Thank you Willowand everyone else too!

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Gatekeeper · 12/12/2013 10:19

morso stoves are fantastic and the build quality on them A1. Parts are guaranteed to be available for practically forever and easy to obtain.

I have a Morso Panther (see pic on profile) and I luffs it. We very, very rarely have the central heating on (Only three times on last 2 yrs)

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Lioninthesun · 12/12/2013 16:18

Oooh that looks fantastic! I can't wait to use mine! Spent a couple of hours organising the woodshed this afternoon so we should be set for a year or two Feeling like I made the right choice, thanks again!

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MinimalistMommi · 12/12/2013 17:40

Love the double doors Gate, I assume that is because it is a 8 kW model? Do they do a stove with double doors with 5 kW output?

Gatekeeper · 15/12/2013 15:10

I don't think so MM..had a look at their website and haven't spotted any
Lioninthesun always presume that you will never have enough wood for a year or two- it's goes a lot quicker than you think. Always be on the hunt for more- it's better to be looking at wood than looking for wood.

We have a tame tree surgeon who drops off on the drive when he is in the area. I alos have a finely tuned ear for a chainsaw and have no shame in locating the source and asking for the wood!

Also I would get any pallet you can scrounge. The thin bits make brilliant kindling and the chunks great for steady burning.

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