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Are Y2 SATs timed? Dd is a bit slow ...

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violetbloom · 26/04/2010 16:33

My dd is a bit of a dreamer. She mentioned that they did a 'reading test' today which was reading then questions in a booklet. She said everyone on her table finished it but she was only half way through? Does htat mean, if it's a SAT test that she'll get a low mark as she didn't finish or will she get an opportunity to finish it another time?

Sorry if I dumb question, I'm new to this lark.

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annaje · 26/04/2010 16:39

DS did them a couple of years ago (now in yr 4) and they were timed - although it wasn't obvious to the children that they were being timed. Some finished, some didn't - but a lot of those that finish don't necessarily get them all right - more quality than quantity

castlesintheair · 26/04/2010 16:46

Yes they time them but don't worry, DS had a nervous breakdown during each test last year so only did about half and he still scored above 'target' in them all. Not that I care of course ...

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violetbloom · 26/04/2010 16:50

So do the teachers make allowances for children that work more slowly than others when they mark them do you think?

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castlesintheair · 26/04/2010 18:25

No I don't think so. Same rule applies to all. I could be wrong of course.

mrz · 26/04/2010 18:26

violetbloom there is a set marking scheme and marks can only be awarded for questions answered correctly each correct answer is worth 1 mark. To reach 2b (expected level in Y2) you need to get at least 12 correct answers so it is possible to score more than that by answering half the questions.

Feenie · 26/04/2010 18:47

No, they aren't timed as such, but when it becomes obvious a child isn't going to get much more done, or they've had enough then we knock it on the head.

Feenie · 26/04/2010 18:49

Also, the teacher won't decide on a certain reading level for her final teacher assessment using just this test alone, she will use a variety of sources of evidence.

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violetbloom · 26/04/2010 19:45

Dd is considered to be quite a strong reader and her teacher said she'd put her in for the level 3 reading test which is, I suppose, what she's been doing today. She did a little practise one of these with me at home over Easter and she did really well but it took her over 2 hours to do it. I'm guessing that's way too long for the actual test. I think in 1 hour she'd be lucky to answer a third of the questions but in 2 hours she'd answer most of them.

It's hard to assess what level she should be though if she could answer them given more time?

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violetbloom · 26/04/2010 19:46

She said her table and one other table did the test today and that she and one boy from the other table were the only people who didn't finish it. He had nearly finished but dd was only half way through.

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mrz · 26/04/2010 19:58

In the level 3 test she needs a minimum of 18/30 correct.

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violetbloom · 26/04/2010 20:02

And she'd have about an hour to do it do you think?

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CaptainNancy · 26/04/2010 20:11

If she has additional needs, you can apply for a time extension or an amenuensis.
I am assuming this is KS2 not KS1? Are her school actually still doing the tests?

mrz · 26/04/2010 20:16

The official teacher's guide says half an hour for the first part and slightly longer for the second part so just over an hour.

(there are two separate booklets to read and answer questions about)

mrz · 26/04/2010 20:17

CaptainNancy no KS1 SATs

CaptainNancy · 26/04/2010 20:27

Oops- yes, says Y2 in title, sorry.

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violetbloom · 27/04/2010 10:02

Does the 30 mins per section include time to read it as well? There's quite a lot to read in those level 3 booklets ...

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violetbloom · 27/04/2010 12:53

What would they do, out of interest, if a good reader who was slow spent the whole 30 minutes reading the text and didn't get around to the questions at all?

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violetbloom · 27/04/2010 18:53

Anybody patient enough to be bothered with my last two questions?

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mrz · 27/04/2010 19:10

violetbloom there are 8-10 pages to read in the booklets. If a child is reading at level 3 I would expect them to be able to read these quite quickly

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violetbloom · 27/04/2010 21:35

And if you had a child that was good but slow and not able to read that quickly?

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violetbloom · 27/04/2010 21:36

Dd really is very good but really is very slow. She reads a paragraph, thinks about it for as long as she took to read it, then reads the next one. Like that.

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Jajas · 27/04/2010 21:39

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 27/04/2010 21:44

Surely though reading well and at a good pace are part of the test?

But it doesn't matter anyway does it? She will be scored on what she can do not can't do.

seeker · 27/04/2010 22:00

I wouldn't worry about it. Being able to read at a reasonable speed is one of the things theya re looking for - but it doesn't really matter anyway!

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violetbloom · 28/04/2010 11:03

You know, I never thought I would worry but strangely I am!

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