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Teachers swopping classes

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daffodilbrain · 01/11/2017 20:54

My dd’s yr3 teacher has been swopped for this term (only at the moment) for the year 2 teacher with no real explanation. I’m more concerned about the swopping of teachers (the yr 3/4 teachers never seem to last very long) and I don’t really want a succession of teachers whilst she’s in this class. Do you think it’s unusual? The head isn’t being very communicative at all

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Appuskidu · 01/11/2017 20:58

Is the year 2 teacher off sick or has your son now got the y2 teacher?

soapboxqueen · 01/11/2017 21:23

Are there any particular issues in your child's class? Such as behaviour? If the school haven't given a reason it maybe that they can't for confidentiality reasons.

MidniteScribbler · 02/11/2017 07:56

It won't have been done for anything other than an absolutely vital reason, and the (real) reason will not be disclosed to you due to confidentiality.

daffodilbrain · 02/11/2017 10:24

The yr 3 teacher was off for two weeks last half term came back and the swop happened. Word on the street is that it’s that she’s finding the yr3/4 (mixed class) too distributive The incumbent yr 2 teacher is older more experienced so maybe she’s been brought in it’s just seems odd as it’s a v small village school and there’s never been any issue like this before... certainly no one has mentioned any distruption ytd.

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Coconut0il · 02/11/2017 16:23

Sounds like there was an issue and the school have delt with it. Better to do this than leave a struggling teacher in the year 3/4 class.

1981trouble · 02/11/2017 17:14

Did the y2 have the group previously when they were in y2?

Sounds like a good solution for the school - keep both teachers and allow for some consistency with kids compared to alternative that one teacher goes off/leaves and a succession of supply teachers takes over

daffodilbrain · 02/11/2017 18:30

Yes it was her class before and she was good dd thrived under her. Fingers crossed she can stay all year. Thanks all

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pinkliquorice · 02/11/2017 18:37

I would be concerned and expect a reason. Have you asked the head?

FitBitFanClub · 02/11/2017 19:52

I would be concerned and expect a reason.

And you may well would not get one.

pinkliquorice · 02/11/2017 20:12

@FitBitFanClub

I think parents are owed some kind of explanation, they are trusting these people with their children for most of the day. If one of my children’s teachers was sacked tomorrow I would need to know why, there could be something sinister going on.
Wouldn’t be happy to continue sending my children there if they are being so hush hush about it all and giving no explanation which would suggest they have something to hide.

Pengggwn · 02/11/2017 20:13

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FitBitFanClub · 02/11/2017 20:19

Parents are not entitled to know some operational reasons - if it's personal to the teachers concerned or could compromise them in some way then no, there would not be a reason given.
It's highly unlikely to be "sinister," and "they are trusting these people with their children for most of the day" is sadly irrelevant.

pinkliquorice · 02/11/2017 20:29

I can’t imagine any positive reasons why a teacher would need to be removed from a classroom disrupting children’s learning. There obviously was a issue or concern with this teacher.
I don’t care about teachers personal lives, but this is to do with them as a teacher.

Pengggwn · 02/11/2017 20:33

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parrotonmyshoulder · 02/11/2017 20:34

I’m changing classes next week. The reason is that I will be a better teacher for the children in class B than their current one. Class A will be okay with the other teacher.

Parents will not be told why, just that SLT have decided this is the best option for all the children.

pinkliquorice · 02/11/2017 20:39

@parrotonmyshoulder

So this other teacher isn’t a very good teacher? How do you know they will manage class A? That’s great for class B that they are now getting you but if I was a parent of a child in class A who was being stuck with the rubbish teacher but will be ‘okay’ I wouldn’t be happy.

FlouryBap · 02/11/2017 20:39

Pink liquorise

In work I would not like to have to justify every decision with a wide circle of stakeholders. It is time consuming both in the communication and in having to deal with the resulting commentary. Schools have enough pointless bureaucracy that takes time away from the children and their mental health.

parrotonmyshoulder · 02/11/2017 20:42

They’re not rubbish. I have specific skills that make me a better fit for the needs of class B. The other teacher will manage class A. What those skills are, and what those particular needs are, will not be communicated to parents.

soapboxqueen · 02/11/2017 20:44

pink not all classes require the same level of skill to teach. Some are just easier than others. It could come down to a bad mix of children that require somebody with more skill or experience in classroom management. Doesn't mean the other teacher is just rubbish.

pinkliquorice · 02/11/2017 20:47

@parrotonmyshoulder

The fact that you are saying they will ‘manage’ the class and that the class will be ‘okay’ with having them as a teacher isn’t very reassuring.
So she’s not a really good teacher who will be best for class A?

parrotonmyshoulder · 02/11/2017 20:50

You can’t have every class having ‘the best’ teacher. Okay is fine. It’s okay.
I’m not ‘the best’. My skills are required in this class. Not everyone has, or needs, these particular skills.
(Poor class B are going to get really crap music lessons - I am unskilled).

MaisyPops · 02/11/2017 20:59

So this other teacher isn’t a very good teacher? How do you know they will manage class A? That’s great for class B that they are now getting you but if I was a parent of a child in class A who was being stuck with the rubbish teacher but will be ‘okay’ I wouldn’t be happy
Depends on different strengths
E.g. the teacher may be great at single year group classes rather than 2 years in one class. (I wouldn't fancy teaching a y8/9 class. It's a huge range) Or, maybe they were originally EYFS/KS1 and thry've tried KS2 and found it's not a good fit.

In one of ny last schools I did a swap with a colleague. She was having a rubbish time of it with a couple of groups so we were swapped on one because I'm a bit firmer and got on better with tricky groups. She took my middle ability class in that year. The kids in my original.class still did well, but it was a much better move for the teacher and the tricky class for the swap to have happened.

Honestly, school are dealing with it. You don't need to know explanations. Let them get on with teaching

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MidniteScribbler · 02/11/2017 21:03

I swapped classes earlier this year (our school year runs January to December). There were various reasons, but one was that I have specialist training in dealing with a particular additional need. Both of us are excellent teachers, so no one was being disadvantaged. Parents were not told the reason as that would be breaching confidentiality of the student with the additional needs.

FitBitFanClub · 02/11/2017 21:53

By "personal" I didn't mean in their personal life. But if there are issues concerning experience or suitability, as others have given examples of, then it shouldn't be broadcast to people not on the staff.

BoneyBackJefferson · 02/11/2017 22:01

pinkliquorice

If one of my children’s teachers was sacked tomorrow I would need to know why, there could be something sinister going on.

All you need to know is that the school has dealt with it.

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