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Results of Y2 Sats

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PotteryLottery · 13/05/2016 23:43

Will parents be given the test scripts or marks or just expected / exceeding / working towards etc???

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Feenie · 13/05/2016 23:53

You'll be given a teacher assessment for reading, writng, maths and science. The tests will.inform the teacher assessment, but schools are not required to report it.

Feenie · 13/05/2016 23:54

The teacher assessment will take the form you describe - working towards, working at or working at greater depth.

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PotteryLottery · 14/05/2016 17:54

If I ask to see the test scripts will they think I am bonkers? Just interested to know where my DD needs practice.

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ShipwreckedAndComatose · 14/05/2016 17:58

Personally I would be guided by what the teacher says and not worry about what happened in one test.

Ellison8996 · 14/05/2016 18:49

You have every right to ask for the scores and they will have to give them to you.

AllPizzasGreatAndSmall · 14/05/2016 19:46

If I ask to see the test scripts will they think I am bonkers? Just interested to know where my DD needs practice.

Yes, they will.
Just ask the teacher if there is anything she needs to practice.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 14/05/2016 20:52

You're unlikely to get the scripts as I think they have to be kept in case of examination for fraud.

mrz · 14/05/2016 21:54

Key Stage 1 tests aren't even reported so there not sure where fraud could be involved.

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PotteryLottery · 14/05/2016 22:21

I don't want to take them away, just have a quick look at them. We did sample papers together so I am interested to see how she got on for real.

If we hadn't done sample papers, as I guess I won't be doing in Y3, I wouldn't be interested in seeing the tests.

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mrz · 15/05/2016 06:50

There aren't any tests in Y3/4/5

Ellison8996 · 15/05/2016 07:25

The results must be reported somewhere, otherwise there would have been no point insisting on exam conditions surely? ( total cynic here)

Can you not Just ask her teacher what the weak spots are if you are wanting to do work with her.

Did you think they were easy compared to usual Mrz?

mrz · 15/05/2016 08:09

The results aren't reported anywhere

Ellison8996 · 15/05/2016 10:40

The government don't collect the results at all?

JerryFerry · 15/05/2016 10:44

Does anyone else find this thread really sad? How did it ever get to the point where there are such high levels of anxiety about the progress of such a young child, it is quite depressing.

Mov1ngOn · 15/05/2016 10:48

You sound over invested in the year 2 sats to me. (Meant kindly, I can see how wanting to support them and do well can turn into a "thing".)

My daughter doesn't really know they're happening. I'm certainly not going over them with her at home (apart from the odd sheet they've sent for homework.)

I'm an overachieving teacher... and v pro teaching exam practice and technique for say gcse's. But so very not for a 6 year old.

Mov1ngOn · 15/05/2016 10:49

Jerry - cross post and yes. I think testing children has all sorts of unintended consequences, such as well meaning parents plying this kind of pressure as well of course as the year 2 curriculum being squeezed in many schools to become sats focused.

MrsKCastle · 15/05/2016 11:02

The results must be reported somewhere, otherwise there would have been no point insisting on exam conditions surely? ( total cynic here)

Hence the frustration from Y2 teachers... There is absolutely no need for exam conditions, the tests are supposed to be one of many pieces of evidence we use to make our teacher assessments.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 15/05/2016 12:59

The government don't collect the results at all?

No, that's the reason for the early sampling. In KS2 they will have the results for the whole cohort that took the test. In KS1, they would have had nothing to use to set the 'pass' mark. They needed the early samples to guage how easy or hard children found the questions on the test and set the standard for everyone else.

Ellison8996 · 15/05/2016 13:04

See the cynic in me would suggest...
It is rare for an organisation to spend money on something and then not collect the results. (The key stage one results would make for interesting analysis for the government. )

Ellison8996 · 15/05/2016 13:06

That's right they do need the results to set the scales scores don't they? Therefore they met be collecting the results?

spanieleyes · 15/05/2016 13:15

Only the results from the early sampling tests, not the cohort tests.

spanieleyes · 15/05/2016 13:16

*For 2016 KS1 tests, conversion tables will be published on GOV.UK by the end of May 2016. In future years the marking guidance for the KS1 tests will include conversion tables.

Teachers will need to use these to translate pupils’ raw scores into scaled scores to see whether each pupil has met the national standard. You should use the scaled scores to inform your teacher assessment judgements.*

( quote from DfE)

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 15/05/2016 13:49

As spaniel says, only the results from the early sampling tests. That's why they were used. No other test results will be collected.

There is a feeling that we may be moving towards testing only in KS1, but for now it still works in a similar way as under the old system where the test results weren't reported to the local authority or anywhere else. Parents can request them, but that's about it.

Ellison8996 · 15/05/2016 14:45

That's amazing and crazy. Why on earth have they done the tests?

mrz · 15/05/2016 15:05

The results of Y2 tests haven't been reported for many years yet teachers have had to test and the DfE had to print thousands of tests and pay moderators etc at huge expense. This year it's even more insane as schools are expected to use the new tests under exam conditions .

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