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Preschool education

Get advice from other Mumsnetters to find the best nursery for your child on our Preschool forum.

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my child was taken on trips at preschool with out my consent please help???

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stepup · 27/01/2015 02:10

Hi everyone, my child has been taken on two outings from her preschool with out my consent. I put no on her form when we joined so was annoyed when it first happened but sent her back there thinking there would me no more outings why I decided what to do but she was taken out again. Please help, what should I do? Who do I go to if I should complain to? Yes I'm over protective because the only preschool I could get in my area was this one which only has one good worker there,the rest are very low standard and don't seem to have much energy or passion for there jobs or the children there ment to help. I only have one child so use the playschool for her to socialise with others of the same age only,she doesn't learn much there as they fail in that area in my opinion and also that of ofstead.please help if you can with some advice as I'm not sure what to do,I'm close to going to the doctors with stress xxxx

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Nolim · 27/01/2015 02:47

What about discussing with the nursery? And escalating to ofsted if necessary?

PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 27/01/2015 04:32

What do you want her to be learning in pre school?

PurpleStripedSock · 27/01/2015 04:59

I'm confused by your post. You out your child into a (nursery?)preschool which you knew offered substandard care, they have provided you with substandard care and now you aren't sure who to complain to? Did you remind them of what your signed agreement said the first time it happened? You could have prevented the second outing if you had.

Groovee · 27/01/2015 05:43

You need to remind them that you said no to trips or outings.

nooka · 27/01/2015 05:51

I can't see that you have any other option but to remove her and find different ways for her to socialise. Seems crazy to send her somewhere that you trust so little that it's making you ill. Why not try activity type groups instead where you can observe her without worry.

lunar1 · 27/01/2015 05:51

Why would you send the most precious thing in your world to somewhere you think is sub standard?

What did they say the first time this happened?

VegasIsBest · 27/01/2015 05:58

What is the problem with them taking her on trips though? Surely your daughter would be upset if her friends went and she was left behind?

AuditAngel · 27/01/2015 06:16

Have you considered why you don't want her to go on trips? Do you have safety concerns? Surely they need to risk assess? Where are they being taken?

When DS was small the (private) nursery would sometimes take the children swimming if they knew they had a quiet day coming up, or get the paddling pool out, I was happy with this.

With the girls, the nursery now seems bigger and these trips aren't given, although sometimes they will go to the local park or library.

insancerre · 27/01/2015 06:27

Are you an Ofsted inspector then?
Thought you must be as you've judged them as failing
I think you need to take her out
I don't think you would ever be satisfied by the preschool

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 27/01/2015 06:28

Take her out if you think the care is rubbish - seems fairly obvious, no reason to get stressed about it!

Look for clubs and activities for her to socialise at if you are concerned she doesn't get time with other children, and try and invite some of the children she meets and their parents to play/ arrange to meet in the park.

phonyics · 27/01/2015 06:37

They absolutely shouldn't have taken her out without your permission, regardless of your reasons for not wanting it, and it's concerning that it happened more than once.

However, like previous posters, I'm at a loss as to why you would send her somewhere that you had concerns about from the outset. I'm all for nurseries and preschools (full disclosure: am an early years teacher and manager of a preschool) but prioritising a need for socialisation over safety is foolish.

fairyfuckwings · 27/01/2015 08:04

I don't think you're overprotective at all. In fact I think you were decidedly underprotective to place your daughter in the care of people who, by your own admission are useless. Take her out of nursery and find one with caters you trust.

GotToBeInItToWinIt · 27/01/2015 08:22

Have you actually spoken to them
about it? I can't see why you would place your daughter anywhere that offers sun standard care. Children can socialise in all sorts of ways, not just at nursery.

SoupDragon · 27/01/2015 08:26

What was their response when you reminded them after the first trip that you had not given permission?

I do wonder whether there are enough staff to take the rest of the children out and stay behind with your daughter though.

PatriciaHolm · 27/01/2015 09:20

Do they define "outings"? For example, it may be that they don't see permission as necessary for a trip across the road to the park, but require it for coach trips.

If they have explicitly done something you have said they shouldn't do, that is not good. However, you are clearly disposed to think badly of them and I don't think the relationship (poor as if already is) can be salvaged. You need to look to move her.

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stepup · 27/01/2015 09:53

Thanks everyone, feel much more sure what to do. In regards to questions asked I would like her to learn the 71 things there ment to teach her thou play,I would love if she came home and I was wowed by a new song or saying she had learned (for pourquoitu.) the first trip was only down the road not to far so I said nothing thinking maybe as it was not far it didn't count as a trip,silly me! I don't want her to go on school trips without me as I feel she is to young but have offered to be a helper at any. They were also in the paper for a bad ofstead so don't know how much they are to be trusted.which brings me to the why I send her there question; I thought I had to,thought if I didn't she would not settle at school. I ignored the ofstead as I thought it would of had to be changed by the time my daughter would start there but sadly it doesn't look like it has. Thank you so much everyone your totally fab xx

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SoupDragon · 27/01/2015 10:05

It's amazing how often my children were better by 9:30 am :)

SoupDragon · 27/01/2015 10:05

LOL - wrong thread :)

Ignore me.

SoupDragon · 27/01/2015 10:06

I think that, as you didn't remind them after the first trip, it is perhaps not surprising that they've taken her again.

HSMMaCM · 27/01/2015 10:09

She doesn't have to go. Many children get something extra out of pre school, others are better at home.

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stepup · 27/01/2015 11:27

Yes very true I should of said something the very First. And thank you didn't realise I had more options,I'm going to metion it reduce her days from 5 day to two and hope it doesn't effect the friends she's made,I'm going to put her back into gymnastics on one of the days,ice skating on the other,and try some other groups to.thank you so much everyone xx

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morethanpotatoprints · 27/01/2015 11:39

Stepup

None of mine went to nursery as we didn't need the childcare and none went to pre school.

They all settled into school fine and in some respects they were more advanced than their peers. This wasn't purposely done but just playing with your children and having fun they learn so much.
It wasn't for us neither, and we met up with others who didn't want to use pre schools.

If you make sure your children socialise there really is no need for them to go.

I am happy for you to pm me if you would like some more info.

Good luck.

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stepup · 27/01/2015 13:43

Aww thank you that is so resureing to know. Yes please would love to pm you and get some tips on meeting others as I may even drop the other two days as she is always in the tv room watching tv when I pick her up and I always feel like we could of been doing something nice instead,thank you xx

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insancerre · 01/02/2015 15:56

Just so you know, it is no longer an Ofsted requirement, under the revised EYFS, that parental permission is sought for trips.

Jacobadom8 · 30/04/2015 13:53

I can understand your problem that they are taking your daughter to a trip without your consent but I could not understand why you don’t want her to go to the trip. Even your daughter won’t feel good that her friends went to the trip but that she would n’t be there with them.

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