As title says I'm 19+4 now with baby no3, though my youngest is 8 so it's been a while since I was last pregnant. I haven't felt a single flutter yet, not after icy drinks, nothing. I am a size 12 so not really overweight to have excess fat in the extreme. I can hear a heartbeat perfectly fine on the doppler, I just don't know whether it's something to worry about or perfectly normal. I had felt both my other children by now.