How to get four year old dry overnight

[Gonnaeatalotofpeaches]

I am looking for advice on helping my four year old become dry overnight. She has never been upset about wearing a pull up overnight and it’s not really been a concern for me however my nearly three year old is now out of nappies at night as she hasn’t wee’d overnight in over 6 months.
To be honest I was keeping my younger daughter in pull-ups for bedtime to stop my four year old feeling bad but I’ve decided it’s too wasteful to continue.
So now 4 year old wants to get rid of the pull up too.
What’s the best technique to use to help her?

Could you put a pad in her bed and leave the pull up off? The feeling of being wet might be needed for it all to click into place.
also maybe try popping her on the loo when you go up, no need to wake her up properly, this can really help.

You can’t train overnight dryness.

She needs to be producing a hormone that wakes her up when she needs a wee. No hormone, no dry nights.

It happens at different ages for different children. One of mine was dry at night at age 2.5 and the other was 6.

Some just aren't ready- you have to wait for the hormone (depressin I think) to kick in naturally. Mine were ready at vastly different ages (6 and 3).

Yes I read about the hormone which was why I haven’t pushed overnight dryness at all but she is really wanting to stop wearing the pull-up.

Maybe she could wear pants with a pull up over it to reduce mess but the wet pants will wake her up. She may realise that it’s not fun waking up wet and put it out of her mind for a while. And maybe you should explain to her that it’ll happen when it happens?

You can train for overnight dryness it just doesn’t always work. I know a lot of people who’ve night trained 2 and 3 year olds. You don’t have to just wait until they’re dry. It’s a very small percentage of children that have the problem with the hormone.

Encourage fluids earlier on in the day, limit fluids towards the end of the day.

No pull up at night, if they wee they need to feel wet to know it’s happened. Just have the bed ready with several layers of water proofing. So if they wake up wet in the night you just remove one layer and carry on.

No telling off of anything if the beds wet, she’s learning.

We woke ours up in the night to go to the toilet. It’s about training their brain to known they need to be awake to wee. We’d take them once when we went to bed and usually once more in the middle of the night. You’ll work out the timings to take her before she wees naturally.

Some people gradually move the later wee time back until morning.

We found that over time we could just not take them and they’d be dry or would wake up by themselves to wee.