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Farage receives second £36m donation in two days for Reform

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Greyrock79 · 12/09/2026 13:47

Farage receives second £36m donation in two days.

Reform’s biggest donor Christopher Harborne matched record donation given on Friday by fellow cryptocurrency billionaire Ben Delo

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Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:10

concertinacornflake · 13/09/2026 07:35

When you say 'working people' who precisely do you mean?

Clearly people in unions are working people, and still choose to send their political support to Labour.

Oh God - straight from the Labour playbook.

A flexible interpretation of ‘working people’, as it suits them.

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Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:11

Scenicgirl · 13/09/2026 07:41

So if they felt that way they wouldn't vote for anyone?
Sounds like you agree that Labour are ruining the UK.

Yes, my position is that Labour are ‘ruining’ the UK.

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Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:12

BIossomtoes · 13/09/2026 07:22

Despite several posts saying that isn’t the case. Do you always ignore evidence that doesn’t suit you?

As an aside, have you ever started a thread?

If not, why not?

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Warmlight1 · 13/09/2026 08:13

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:10

Oh God - straight from the Labour playbook.

A flexible interpretation of ‘working people’, as it suits them.

@Greyrock79 I'd also like to know Can you say who you think working people are?

MelissaLovedMantari · 13/09/2026 08:14

The narrative that Labour is the party of benefit claimants and Muslims is straight out of the Tory and Reform playbooks. As Farage would say BORING.

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:14

In other news (well done Burnham)

The leaders of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will gather on Monday to sign a deal designed to kick-start the break-up of the United Kingdom.

At an unprecedented summit in Cardiff, the three first ministers will put pen to paper on a joint declaration demanding the right to hold independence referendums.

The meeting comes after Andy Burnham suggested to MPs that he would authorise another Scottish referendum if there were a “clear consensus” in favour of one.

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MelissaLovedMantari · 13/09/2026 08:17

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:12

As an aside, have you ever started a thread?

If not, why not?

You are very fond of deflection, greyrock. But not very good at it.

EasternStandard · 13/09/2026 08:18

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:14

In other news (well done Burnham)

The leaders of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will gather on Monday to sign a deal designed to kick-start the break-up of the United Kingdom.

At an unprecedented summit in Cardiff, the three first ministers will put pen to paper on a joint declaration demanding the right to hold independence referendums.

The meeting comes after Andy Burnham suggested to MPs that he would authorise another Scottish referendum if there were a “clear consensus” in favour of one.

Ah well done Burnham.

5128gap · 13/09/2026 08:19

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 05:17

Because, the UK is going to deteriorate further until Labour is out.

If you believe this, then you really should be getting behind the Tories and withdrawing support from Reform. Because while I understand people not agreeing with Labour's approach, replacing them with a bunch of corrupt incompetents owned by a couple of billionaires is surely not the answer you're looking for?
Why do you think these donors have chosen to back Reform rather than the Conservatives? Both parties take the economic approach you'd expect then to favour. One is established, with strong leadership and comprised of experienced and intelligent politicians. I disagree with most all they say, but I have no doubt of their ability to drive forward their agenda.
The other is a hastily cobbled together collection of anyone who will stand for election, who have demonstrated repeatedly at local levels the work is beyond their ability and experience. At the top we have corruption and criminality, and there is no plan. The 'manifesto' reads like a wishlist of things they think are a good idea, but not a word about how. They chop and change making one stupid statement after another.
Yet they are the donors choice. The only reason for that which makes any sense is they know they're for sale. So a vote for Reform is a vote for these two guys to govern us.
If you want rid of Labour, the only way you'll achieve it is getting rid of one of the right wing parties. If you choose to get rid of the Conservatives by backing Reform, I think you'll live to regret it.

EasternStandard · 13/09/2026 08:21

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:10

Oh God - straight from the Labour playbook.

A flexible interpretation of ‘working people’, as it suits them.

‘Working people’ but the AB demographic going by the posts below.

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:22

5128gap · 13/09/2026 08:19

If you believe this, then you really should be getting behind the Tories and withdrawing support from Reform. Because while I understand people not agreeing with Labour's approach, replacing them with a bunch of corrupt incompetents owned by a couple of billionaires is surely not the answer you're looking for?
Why do you think these donors have chosen to back Reform rather than the Conservatives? Both parties take the economic approach you'd expect then to favour. One is established, with strong leadership and comprised of experienced and intelligent politicians. I disagree with most all they say, but I have no doubt of their ability to drive forward their agenda.
The other is a hastily cobbled together collection of anyone who will stand for election, who have demonstrated repeatedly at local levels the work is beyond their ability and experience. At the top we have corruption and criminality, and there is no plan. The 'manifesto' reads like a wishlist of things they think are a good idea, but not a word about how. They chop and change making one stupid statement after another.
Yet they are the donors choice. The only reason for that which makes any sense is they know they're for sale. So a vote for Reform is a vote for these two guys to govern us.
If you want rid of Labour, the only way you'll achieve it is getting rid of one of the right wing parties. If you choose to get rid of the Conservatives by backing Reform, I think you'll live to regret it.

To your point.

Inheritance tax faces axe if Kemi Badenoch wins next election as ditching 'hated' levy will be funded by welfare cuts.

This alone would win my vote for the Conservatives.

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fairyring25 · 13/09/2026 08:23

@KeepPumpingWhy do I care about deregulation of crapto? Reform have said that they want to reduce the compliance measures on crapto set the by the Financial Conduct Authority. This could lead to more financial crime. There could be more money laundering across countries. Criminal gangs could launder money more easily.
Farage also met with the Bank of England to oppose a regulated digital currency that would compete with crapto. Does this not all sound like Reform have been bought by these crapto billionnaires? A political party should not be for sale.
Why do I care whether crapto billionnaires makes more money? Reform have said they want to reduce the capital gains tax on crapto asset profits.
I am worried that if more money is concentrated in the hands of the few, then they will have more power to do what they like and influence politicians in a way that may be not in the interests of the average working person in the UK. This will reduce democracy.

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:23

MelissaLovedMantari · 13/09/2026 08:17

You are very fond of deflection, greyrock. But not very good at it.

The news flow is not proving positive for Labour - the October budget promises to be a real humdinger, for all the wrong reasons.

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5128gap · 13/09/2026 08:36

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:22

To your point.

Inheritance tax faces axe if Kemi Badenoch wins next election as ditching 'hated' levy will be funded by welfare cuts.

This alone would win my vote for the Conservatives.

The policies of the Conservatives that might tempt you personally are neither here nor there to the point I was making.
You want rid of Labour and think the donations to Reform will achieve this for you. I'm simply pointing out that getting rid of Labour is best achieved by getting rid of one of the right wing parties, and unless you want to replace Labour with government by two unelected billionaires, you'd be better off backing the Tories.

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:41

5128gap · 13/09/2026 08:36

The policies of the Conservatives that might tempt you personally are neither here nor there to the point I was making.
You want rid of Labour and think the donations to Reform will achieve this for you. I'm simply pointing out that getting rid of Labour is best achieved by getting rid of one of the right wing parties, and unless you want to replace Labour with government by two unelected billionaires, you'd be better off backing the Tories.

Thank you, but I don’t recall asking for your advice on how to vote.

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Burnedbyquestions · 13/09/2026 08:58

fairyring25 · 13/09/2026 08:23

@KeepPumpingWhy do I care about deregulation of crapto? Reform have said that they want to reduce the compliance measures on crapto set the by the Financial Conduct Authority. This could lead to more financial crime. There could be more money laundering across countries. Criminal gangs could launder money more easily.
Farage also met with the Bank of England to oppose a regulated digital currency that would compete with crapto. Does this not all sound like Reform have been bought by these crapto billionnaires? A political party should not be for sale.
Why do I care whether crapto billionnaires makes more money? Reform have said they want to reduce the capital gains tax on crapto asset profits.
I am worried that if more money is concentrated in the hands of the few, then they will have more power to do what they like and influence politicians in a way that may be not in the interests of the average working person in the UK. This will reduce democracy.

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Exactly this. Regulation isn’t pointless red tape, it’s there to ensure the law is followed, protect healthy competition and stop monopolies.
ETA- which is all designed to help us, consumers, the public, the little people! Otherwise big businesses, train bus companies, energy companies etc could charge whatever they wanted, adverts could say what they want and be really damaging etc etc. Regulations keep us in the game and not (completely) pawns at the whim of big business.

5128gap · 13/09/2026 09:04

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 08:41

Thank you, but I don’t recall asking for your advice on how to vote.

It was you who chose to personalise it by telling me your voting influences. I was making a general observation. I couldn't care less about you and your specific vote. I'm interested in the wider picture.

Switchnow · 13/09/2026 09:07

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 05:17

Because, the UK is going to deteriorate further until Labour is out.

I don’t agree. If you’re troubled by it maybe you would consider moving somewhere else.

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2026 09:09

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 12/09/2026 23:02

I know lots of lifelong Labour voters who would vote Tory to keep Farage out.

There was a time when I would never have even considered voting Tory. And I still wouldn't out of choice. But if a Tory looks like my best option for keeping Reform out, then I will hold my nose and vote for them as the lesser of two evils.

I know quite a few one-nation type Tories who are horrified by the prospect of Reform as well, and will vote in whatever way they have to in order to keep them out.

Hmmm, you know a lot of people who have confided in you re their voting choices. I find that most people don’t share their politics with others. It’s a private thing…..

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2026 09:11

Buzzlightfear · 12/09/2026 23:11

I'm a life long labour supporter, my grandma, mother, father were all labour party members. I consider myself dyed in the wool labour.

But if it comes to it I will 💯 vote Tory to keep out reform. I can't believe I'm alone in that.

Don’t you have confidence that Labour are going to get in at the next GE? If not, why not? Seems a bit premature to be writing off your party with three years to go…

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2026 09:13

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 13/09/2026 00:02

Do feel free to report your evidence to the police.

So you don’t think it happens across all parties? How naive of you.

MelissaLovedMantari · 13/09/2026 09:22

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2026 09:13

So you don’t think it happens across all parties? How naive of you.

I am pretty sure that if the right wing media suspected Labour was breaking the law in the way Reform has been accused of, a sting operation would be set up.

5128gap · 13/09/2026 09:33

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2026 09:09

Hmmm, you know a lot of people who have confided in you re their voting choices. I find that most people don’t share their politics with others. It’s a private thing…..

No need to know people. There have been polls. 38% of Labour voters would vote Tory to keep Reform out. 24% of Tories would vote Libdem to keep them out and 11% would vote Labour. This is estimated to cost Reform 60 seats.

5128gap · 13/09/2026 09:37

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2026 09:11

Don’t you have confidence that Labour are going to get in at the next GE? If not, why not? Seems a bit premature to be writing off your party with three years to go…

Its not about confidence. Its about pragmatic use of one's vote. I live in a constituency with a strong right wing bias. My vote for Labour is at times entirely pointless, I might as well stay home for all the good it will do. So if I can't help Labour I'd rather focus on harming Reform. Because even one Reform MP is one too many.

Greyrock79 · 13/09/2026 10:02

Switchnow · 13/09/2026 09:07

I don’t agree. If you’re troubled by it maybe you would consider moving somewhere else.

I don’t live in the UK - I left in Dec 24, after Reeves’s first budget.

I wasn’t the only one.

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