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Terrifying Political violence on US Left And Right

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TheJoyOfWriting · 12/09/2025 13:43

On The Right
1.The murder of Melissa Hortman and her husband
2.The attempted murder of John Hoffman and his wife
3.The attempted kidnapping and murder of Gretchen Whitmer
4.The attempted kidnapping and murder of Nancy Pelosi and the brutal assault on her husband Paul with a hammer
5.The attempted murder of Esther Salas and the murder of her son Daniel
6.The attempted arson of Josh Shapiro and his family while they slept during Passover
(I've seen people say this was a Left wing murder attempt bc it was an anti Semitic attempt to blame him for the Palestine situation. However, the would-be murderer voted Trump in the last election and previously had been an independent. There are also Palestine fanatics (not just reasonable campaigners) and anti Semites on the right, though it is more common on the left, so I don't think it should be labelled Left just bc it's those things)
7.Pipe bomb sent to Biden

  1. Bomb in DNC
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dwordle · 12/09/2025 22:23

America is over, it's done. Its crumbling as a type.....id prefer to live in China than the states. Empires fall and it's had its day

TheJoyOfWriting · 12/09/2025 22:31

On The Left
1.Two assassination attempts on Trump
(One of which killed a bystander)
3.Attempted murder of Brett Kavanagh

  1. Murder of Charlie Kirk
  2. Murder of Israeli Embassy couple
  3. Anti Semitic attack in Boulder, Colorado
  4. Minneapolis shooting of Catholic school children.
  5. Nashville shooting of Christian schoolchildren
  6. Bomb at RNC

United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson's murder is more difficult to classify as murderer held a mixture of left and right views, and was unaffiliated to a party.

BLM protests led to 25 deaths, by a mixture of left and right wing perpetrators. Will break this down later.

Tesla attacks on vehicles seem aimed more at the vehicle but also appear to intend to endanger human life- which they have.

ICE boxing and violence against ICE agents.

Bombing of 'crisis pregnancy' anti-abortion centres.

Bombing of IVF clinic by anti-natalist. This ideology is technically neither left or right but is more popular on extreme left than extreme right.

Others On The Right

The abortion clinic bombing planned in 2024 by a Neo-Nazi ex-Marine. He was also planning to target Jewish & LGBT people.

Mike Pence attempted lynching.

Heather Heying murder by neo-Nazi at Charlottesville.

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Lunalara · 13/09/2025 08:40

Was the assassination on Trump confirmed to be someone on the left? Though it would make most sense, I thought that it was another Republican that attempted to kill him.

Not that any of that invalidates your post. I too am deeply concerned about the polarisation between the left and right. I know so many people who are happy with Kirk’s recent assassination that it’s scary. They say that people on the right had it coming for being so evil.

CatsMagic · 13/09/2025 08:57

This the end result of “words are violence”

Society needs to stop analysing everything through the lens of victimhood , stop encouraging the race to the bottom, stop pitting people against each other and get people off their internet echo chambers and back out connecting with each other.

Of course if knew how to make that happen I would !

hobbledyhoy · 13/09/2025 09:04

dwordle · 12/09/2025 22:23

America is over, it's done. Its crumbling as a type.....id prefer to live in China than the states. Empires fall and it's had its day

This. We’re watching the empire in its death throes, it’s not going to be pretty and it’s likely to take a long time.

You couldn’t pay me to live in the states now. I’m not even sure I’d like to visit again, now I have children it seems to unstable to relax and enjoy a holiday.

dwordle · 13/09/2025 09:52

Too many people with guns wrapped up in a world polluted by social media....that's my take on it all. Young men with hormones raging through their body listening to tripe online and becoming radicalised and angry.

MsAmerica · 15/09/2025 02:23

Excuse me, @TheJoyOfWriting, but although your post is a little confusing and muddled, it looks to me as though your characterization of "left" is a little off. In general, the vast majority of the threats and the actual violence comes from Conservatives/Republicans, and indeed Trump is the only president who himself wallows in violent rhetoric.
In general, I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a single instance of a political murder or attempted murder was by an actual Democrat.

TizerorFizz · 16/09/2025 00:38

@MsAmerica There’s been good analysis of this on the BBC radio 5 today. There’s definitely a violent left in the USA. It might not call itself a Democrat but whipping up confrontation is going on by the left. It’s not one sided. The Americast contributors certainly were aware of it and some was attributed to politicians. They felt the governor of Utah had done well in the circumstances. There’s so much hate in the USA at the moment it’s upsetting really. Ditto here.

MsAmerica · 23/09/2025 02:00

TizerorFizz · 16/09/2025 00:38

@MsAmerica There’s been good analysis of this on the BBC radio 5 today. There’s definitely a violent left in the USA. It might not call itself a Democrat but whipping up confrontation is going on by the left. It’s not one sided. The Americast contributors certainly were aware of it and some was attributed to politicians. They felt the governor of Utah had done well in the circumstances. There’s so much hate in the USA at the moment it’s upsetting really. Ditto here.

I'm sorry, but there are more and more statistics coming out - including something posted right here in this forum - which shows that this is simply not true.

I'm not saying that there aren't American lefties dreaming of violence. I'm saying that the vast bulk of the violent rhetoric, and the vast bulk of the targeted violence, comes from the far right.

SammyScrounge · 23/09/2025 15:29

dwordle · 12/09/2025 22:23

America is over, it's done. Its crumbling as a type.....id prefer to live in China than the states. Empires fall and it's had its day

Would you REALLY rather live in China under Party rule ? I wouldn't celebrate.the end of America just yet.

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