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Apple pay almost no tax in this country...

16 replies

LittleFrieda · 11/04/2012 19:49

yet every socialist I know has an iPhone and/or an iPad.

Isn't it time socialists got themselves a Motorola t191?

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Oakmaiden · 11/04/2012 19:52

Hm. Why would they pay tax here when they are based elsewhere?

I don't think they are even tax avoiding - they are just not UK based. Other firms do the selling and distributing in the UK, and they pay tax don't they?

LittleFrieda · 11/04/2012 19:56

here

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meditrina · 11/04/2012 20:10

Interesting, as this appears to be an example of a country swerving UK because of tax policy, and basing it's European operations elsewhere in EU.

Even more interesting is th claim that only now is the taxman investigating Amazon's tax situation from 2004 until redomiciling away from UK in 2010. Why on earth was that not dealt with in the 6 years it was happening?

CanCant · 11/04/2012 20:13

None of the socialists I know has an iphone/ipad.

HTH

Gigondas · 11/04/2012 20:19

Because tax returns go in a year after accounts date (so could be 2 years after transaction). Because hmrc then have a year (or sometimes more to enquire ). Because it usually takes a while for
Them to look at tax returns to gain sufficient info to dig into peoples affairs .

And there is tax law around this so if apple is avoiding tax on activities that should have been taxed here. But if they aren't actually doing much here (ie sales manufacturing etc) is elsewhere , then the corporate tax may be quite low.

LittleFrieda · 11/04/2012 20:25

meditrana - Absolutely. Ireland has an extremely low corporation tax rate, which is why it became the Celtic Tiger in the first place (they didn't really have a debt crisis initially but a banking crisis, which became a sovereign debt crisis when they underwrote all their banks' losses - why?).

If you are using an Apple product to complain on Mumsnet about the Tories' aim for globally competitive low taxes, then you are a champagne socialist wrapped in a pashmina inside an enigma.

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BrandyAlexander · 11/04/2012 20:27

What UK based profits would you like them to pay tax on??

BelleDameSansMerci · 11/04/2012 20:28

Why dig at socialists? Why not dig at everyone supporting tax avoidance from all parties? Bizarre.

LittleFrieda · 11/04/2012 20:55

Because socialists want high taxes. Tories generally support a business-friendly, low-tax, regime. So from Apple we would get a small tranche of a huge amount of money as opposed to the almost nothing at all we currently receive. If we were as competitive as Ireland with their corpoation tax rate of 12.5%, Apple would not need to service the UK from Cork.

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BelleDameSansMerci · 11/04/2012 21:00

I don't think socialists want high taxes for all but, hey, you carry on with your swinging generalisations on here and other threads...

LittleFrieda · 11/04/2012 21:15

BelleDameSansMerci Sorry.

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claig · 11/04/2012 21:21

'yet every socialist I know has an iPhone and/or an iPad.'

Only one? The ones I know have at least two.

claig · 11/04/2012 21:23

'If we were as competitive as Ireland with their corpoation tax rate of 12.5%'

We have to be realistic. I doubt that our EU competitors would allow us to have a 12.5% corporation tax rate.

crazynanna · 11/04/2012 21:26

My phone cost me 26 quid.

Viva la Revolucion

Ryoko · 12/04/2012 20:09

I only know one person with Apple stuff and he is such a sheep it wouldn't surprise me if he'd filmed himself at some point giving bum love to his Mac.

As for everyone else I know, a couple of people have Ipods because they got them free with student bank accounts, a lot of people used to have iphones back in 07 but they have all gotten over it now and have gone back to Samsungs or moved on to HTC.

I myself haven't had anything Apple related since the Macintosh II si.

JosephineCD · 12/04/2012 20:22

The only Apple I have ever owned was a Granny Smith!

Amazes me that people waste their money on their tat, and queue all night for the privilege of paying them to do so! And many of those people criticise people who go to church?

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