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Does anyone know whether there are any "bad spirits" or creatures in Wiccan or Pagan belief?

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GoldQuintessenceAndMyrrh · 27/12/2009 11:00

I am just wondering, as some people believe in ghosts and demons, so I am wondering if there are such characters in pagan or wiccan belief?

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sarah293 · 27/12/2009 16:00

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GoldQuintessenceAndMyrrh · 27/12/2009 19:55

what are they like?
how do you get rid of them?

(assumably there are wiccan ways, where the Christian ways have no effect?)

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CleosMam · 28/12/2009 00:06

merry meet!

its all down to personal belief but the way i see it, is that "bad spirts" are simply bad energies sent out by bad people.

send out nothing but love and you'll get nothing but love in return

or if you're having real problems with "bad spirits" do a few protection spells and maybe a binding

sarah293 · 28/12/2009 07:53

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GoldQuintessenceAndMyrrh · 28/12/2009 09:36

It is tricky because I dont follow the wiccan faith. I had a period in my innocent youth were I dabbled in witchcraft, collected my own herbs and made potions, and did some spells (in that very house) but this is long ago. As a Christian I have helped perform cleansing rituals, and helped spirits pass to the other world, and we have tried this methods. We have even had a priest, and blessed stones. But what we sense with this being is "something else than human" and nothing works on him. It seems so "old". It is hard to explain without sounding a looney bin. And it is especially troublesome at Christmas. Not surprisingly I suppose...

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sarah293 · 28/12/2009 09:54

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GoldQuintessenceAndMyrrh · 28/12/2009 09:59

It has been going on for decades. But now my 14 year old niece (who sees things) is scared witless, as she is currently sleeping in his "domain" at my parents house....

I lived there with my family for a year, last year, we had no bother. Maybe because we dont sense things so strongly.

A lot of rock was escavated when the basement area of the house was built, he seems to only stay downstairs or outside.

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sarah293 · 28/12/2009 10:13

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GoldQuintessenceAndMyrrh · 28/12/2009 10:19

do you know if they can actually DO anything to us?

Do you reckon the best thing to do is just accept that we share the house with him and just try co-exist?

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sarah293 · 28/12/2009 10:24

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moonmother · 28/12/2009 10:37

Negative Energies/entities are found in all religions, and as you have found some are easier to be rid of than others.

Firstly let me say that the negative 'feeds' on negative, so your niece being more susceptible, and therefore more scared is feeding the negative feeling of this thing.

I'm not saying it's her fault, it's just the way these energies survive.

My suggestion is to perform a simple cleansing ritual, with your niece , in the house, if not in the area this feeling is mostly situated , then at least where your niece is sleeping.

Here is a link to a very simple cleansing ritual - it only needs a very few simple items.

www.allsands.com/home/cleansingritual_tul_gn.htm

It may not remove the negativity, but hopefully it will give your niece a feeling of calmness whilst she is there.

Then when Xmas is over perhaps a more permanent way of removing the negativty can be found.

Is your niece able to give you more info on the negativity, it seems she thinks it's a him?

sarah293 · 28/12/2009 10:39

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expatinscotland · 28/12/2009 12:56

It's not always possible to eject place elementals.

What you can do is stop its manifesting itself in your presence.

purpleduckUnderTheMistletoe · 28/12/2009 12:57

Does your neice just see it, or has it interacted with her? I mean, does it know that she is there, or is it just going about its business?

I would be more worried that things would escalate if it knows she is there.

dollyparting · 30/12/2009 11:55

Some ancient traditions use the term "aka" for sticky connections which are energy links formed through any relationship. Some of these connections may be negative and rituals have developed to cut the cords.

Some people cut all cords (positive connections will renew themselves), and some people only cut the negative ones.

A process like this may release the feeling of negative energy that you describe without displacing an elemental from its place.

Relax, close your eyes, and imagine all the thousands of aka cords going out from your solar plexus, your head, and all over your body.

You can imagine holding silver or white knives ... or just imagine you have "Edward" Scissor-Hands ... and just imagine cutting all those cords.

Add "sound effects" like "ffffft ffffffft fffft ffffft" as you're cutting the cords ... just imagine
what it would sound like as you're cutting the cords.

You can begin rotating counter-clockwise cutting all the cords ... most will be connected at the solar plexus, but imagine cutting them from all over your body.

Seal off the ends with blue light and bring them (or let them snap back) into your body.

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