orthopedics insoles will dd need new shoes to fit them

[lexcat]

Just got a referral to physio so still need to be referred on to orthopedics. DD has got a bad inward turn on the left with the foot been nearly flat. The right foot is not so bad but still a problem.

The doctor said she'll need insoles, so how long can I expect to wait to see orthopedics and the the time for the insoles to be made up.
Plus will she need new shoes, if so will hold out buying any for now. Was looking at trainers to replace worn winter boots.

Hi!
can't say how long you'd have to wait in your area for an appointment with the orthotics people, but once you've got the appointment any insoles should take a couple of weeks no longer.

If they recommend insoles, you can put them in any normal shoes - trainers are good, but buy ones that you can take the insoles out of,not shoes with fixed insoles, Also, get shoes with covered in heels, not slingbacks.

I had the same concern -my son needs these and I get him walking boot- type trainers from millets or blacks because they have good ankle support and the orthotics can fit inside. not very girlie though.

you should be safe to get trainers if she needs new shoes now.

With DS when he had his appointment with orthopedics they had insoles for him there and then - took them away with us. They just had a box of different sizes.

They will fit into any shoe - although sandals are tricky - but Clarks ones with backs worked OK. They do take up space in the shoe though so need to allow for extra space when fitting. I have waited and got new shoes after getting new insoles.

Second that.My 3 yr old DD has got them.

She's on her second pair,as they have some small/med/large,which she had first.
Now she's got individually made ones just for her.

Fit in all shoes.I don't take out any insoles that come with the shoes,just slip them in.Only problem I find is they take up the "depth" of the shoes,so they get quite snug.
I wouldn't worry about buying new shoes,won't be a problem in new or old shoes.I swap them between all the shoes and trainers she wears.

my ds1 has inner soles for flat feet and although he measures a F width he always ends up in a G fitting because of it. Also we do get through quite alot of shoes before finding one that doesnt slip off the heel when walking because the inner sole has reduced the amount of grip the heel gives so not all shoes are suitable. Do not be rushed when getting new shoes. My ds1 had a nasty accident because the strap on his trainers wasnt long enough once his innersoles were in so after a while of wearing them the velcro wore out, the shoe came off whilst he was running and he fell face first onto the concreate. The nice lady in clarks said he should never have been sold those type -
www.clarks.co.uk/find/department-is-boys/enduses-is-age72d8/product-is-20338563

www.clarks.co.uk/find/department-is-boys/enduses-is-age72d8/fit-is-g/size-is-_1junior/product-is-203 32000

i also find these dont fit because of the toy taking up room in the heel

Thanks some really great input I think we'll wait. Who came up with the idea of toy in the heel anyway I've only ever hear about problems with those shoes.

Poor dd hates wearing school shoe out of school, so has not been getting the support she needs of the foot. Now her ankle is really sore and her leg and knee by the end of the day. Sad as she's a great walker and we had some walks planned but she really not up to them.

I now am just waiting till monday so I might get any idea of time before she might get the insoles. She suddenly got worst in the last month with sore knees and legs it was only the ankles.

we got to the school of podiatry at the local hospital. I just phone up and they give me an appointment within a week. Could you try that?

Thanks I did asked but have to go thought the physio. In fact I did well to get the appointment so fast with the physio only one week. Often 2-4 weeks with most other surgeries near me, so I'm told.

Will push the point that dd is having problem at the moment in hope to hurry the referral on to orthopedics. She's got a 5-6mile walk coming up with school mid March hope we are sorted by then. I'd hate her to miss out because of her feet are giving her ankle and knee pains, she loves the school walks.

If your child is school age, the school normally allow them to wear trainers to school instead of school shoes, which I know makes most parents go yuk, but the ortho insoles become the support, so it really doesn't matter whether they wear trainers or good shoes.
A good tip, is to take the insole of your childs shoe or trainer out, and replace them with the ortho insoles, as the ortho insole will become the support and the shoe itself doesn't matter anymore,and by doing this it stops the problem of not being able to do the shoe up. (otherwise, you have insole, ortho insole and foot, and it makes it hard to do the shoe up as shoes are not designed for that sort of depth)

you shouldn't need special shoes, but best to buy good quality shoes eg. Clarks and get her feet measured with the insoles in

DD1 neede insoles for her hypermobility, and I found that many shoes were simply too shallow to take them properly, and the heel sat too low on her foot, so they weren't secure. I think a lot will depend on the thickness of the insole, and if you can find a good shoe, maybe with a removable insole. For out of school - have you tried ankle-boots? Verbaudet often do some really pretty ones, even for the Summer, and they are usually cheaper than something like Ricosta. (I don't think much of Clarks stuff, apart from their Cica trainers). Lace-ups usually give a better fit. DD1 doesn't have insole anymore, and usually has shoes or boots with a built-in arch support, like Kickers

Oh how I hate shoe shopping at the best of times as dd narrow but high at the arch even with her flat feet. I really don't care if she has to have trainers for school the problem will be dd. When your rising 9 peer pressure is really just starting to kick in big time.

I would normally get startrite shoes for school as clarks don't support the foot as well, which leads to the sore ankles. Mind don't mind the clarks trainers. So any recomdemation for shoe are great as it seem we might be looking for them in the near future.

Just an update,just been to the physio who was great. Now been referred on so have to wait to hear from the orthopedics for an appointment. Physio said children are normally push though the system quickly and should be seen within a month.

I now and feeling a little cross with my doctor who said their was no problem a year ago, and it took a different doctor to see it. The physio was really surprised dd has gone so long without things been picked up as her knee on the left is all out of alignment because of her flat foot. The right is better but heading that way.

My DD visited the Podiatrist yesterday. The appointment came through me visiting the Podiatrist about my own foot problem and explaining how my DD's feet look. She was great and just asked me to get a referral letter from the docs and to take her along to my next appointment. They confirmed that she is very pronate and will need to get ortho insoles. I'm glad it's getting sorted now rather than when she gets to my age. If anyone had noticed it when I was a child it may have stopped all the problems I've had with my ankles, knees and hips!! The only thing is they will have to be specially made and we don't go back to get her feet cast until the middle of next month. I now have to contact school to say that she cannot wear plimsoles any longer and must wear training shoes instead. I don't see it being easy! My other concern is she has a high instep which make finding shoes to fit properly a nightmare as it is. As for my opinion on Clarks -I gave up on their shoes a long time ago!! Lexcat - I know how you feel about doctors. The doctor we saw to get the referral letter didn't even know what pronate meant and ask me if I was in the medical profession!! Nope - I'm just a mum who knows when something isn't right with my children!!!!

Thanks teeny I'm still waiting to hear about the appointment with orthopedics. I not sure how long I should wait before I chase them, been 2 weeks now.

DD started to complain about pain in the top of her legs when she showed me where, it's in the hips. Sent her to school with walking boots today. It's the only thing that dd seem to be able to get on with her normal physical activity without so much pain. It's just not right when a normally active child stops been active because it's causes discomfort.