HELP ds 2.3 given up daytime sleep 9-5 at nursery too much

[witchandchips]

I think as he is a) really overtired and b) really grumpy and hard to deal with. Think it could be that 8 hours or so of a toddler room is too much noise and stimulation. any advice from MNs

bump to distract other working mothers

does he go there every day?
My ds stopped lseeping at nursery around this time but caught up on the days when he wasn't there and at weekends

fraid so, gave up his slepp at home about a month ago and now won't sleep at nursery either. Don't mind this so much but feel that is really hard for him go get used to being so tired at night AND having little down time in the day

Tricky one. Ds (3.5) still has 45 minutes at nursery. And then yesterday, when he was home with me, he refused to, for the first time ever, and was well grouchy and in bed at 6.45pm.
What are the nursery saying ? Maybe he is just ready. Or maybe you could say to them that you would like him to, so that he gets more out of the day, and could they... encourage him more ?

they spend up to 30 mins rocking him in a pram but no joy. don't think i can expect more encouragement than that specially as i gather OFSTED is a bit down on this kind of thing

DD had just started sleeping again at nursery at this age. Until 2.2 she was in the toddler room, where they put them down for naps in a separate room in shifts (too many to do at once). There was a glass door between the sleep room and the main room, so I think they spent all the time chatting to each other and watching the other kids! Then she moved into the next room up, where they didn't have a set nap, but quiet time instead. They would lie on mats, listen to music, and if anyone drifted off they'd be moved over to the side after quiet time was over, and sleep as long as they wanted (or as long as parents instructed nursery to let them). DD slept almost without fail until about 2.10, when she really began to outgrow a nap.

Don't know if there's anything there that might help ... if this is a problem with nursery generally, perhaps they could adopt something more like the latter model? Or if DS is moving to a new room soon perhaps that will help? Otherwise, like compo's DS and my DD during her non-sleeping phase, he'll just have to catch up at weekends (however long they are for you) and you'll have to grin and bear it on work/nursery days.

Yes, most nurserys don't like to 'force' children to sleep, nor will they wake them , even if parents think they have had enough , after a certain time.
I think that if 30 mins has been spent, encouraging your ds, it looks like a lost casue. I don't know what else to suggest. Is he grumpy when home with you, or have THEY said that he is grumpy at nursery aswell ?

No he's fine at nursery, just with me and his dad!

What do MNs think of me taking him out for sometime during the middle of the day for a break? [its a workplace nursery]

Witchchips, you nutter - how is that going to help ?
No, no, no, bad idea
What about just some quiet time, possible nap time, when he is at home, say after lunch.
The poor lad needs to re-coup at some time - being at nursery is stimulating.

was just thinking it might be a way to give him some quiet time in the middle of the day. At nursery he just plays with the two other kids who don't sleep so doen't get any down time at all.

I appreciate that . But if he really needs it, he will do it. Doesn't sound like he does - oooooohhh for those lost naps.... memeories,....lal-lal-la-la-la-la-la