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DD's nursery are having a day out, do I still have to pay?

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pjsmum · 13/06/2007 20:01

DD's nursery are taking the children for a day trip in a couple of weeks. I have said that DD will not be going as I am unhappy about her going on a coach with no car seat. As tha trip is all day the nursery have said that they will not be able to provide any other child care provision for the children not going. Do I still have to pay for this day or not? I'm not sure as I've chosen for dd not to go. Any ideas/thoughts on this please?

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Hulababy · 13/06/2007 20:02

I would imagine that yes, you do.

gemmiegoatlegs · 13/06/2007 20:02

i imagine you will have to pay as they are willing to care for your child that day, thus have a place reserved for her. No carseats? How old are the kids?

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pjsmum · 13/06/2007 20:07

Thanks, I thought as much. Gemmie dd is 2. Other children are between 2 and 4. Just feel really uneasy about her only having a lap strap.

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oooggs · 13/06/2007 20:08

I am suprised they can get insurance

MadamePlatypus · 13/06/2007 20:08

What kind of nursery is it? A 365 days a year, 8-6 one or one thats a few hours a day. If the former, I don't think you should pay, if the latter, perhaps. Thats just my viewpoint though.

MadamePlatypus · 13/06/2007 20:09

Have you checked out the Rospa web-site? I think they say that coach travel is generally safer than car travel - there is a bit about car-seats in coaches.

SlightlyMadScientist · 13/06/2007 20:10

I am surprised they would take 2yos on a coach with nothing more than a lap-strap. I personally don't blame you.

I do however agree that you are likely to have to pay - as it is your choice not to send her.

SlightlyMadScientist · 13/06/2007 20:11

Even if it is safer wrt to numbers injured per year in accidents etc. I wouldn't tryuct a 2yo to keep the straps on and nbot wander around - let alone a few 2 yos.

MadamePlatypus · 13/06/2007 20:17

To be honest, I wouldn't be happy about it either mad scientist. I'm also not sure what 2 year olds get out of day trips like this.

SlightlyMadScientist · 13/06/2007 20:18

I am not sure what 6m babies get out of painting on a twise weekly basis either - but it seems to entertain the nursery staff and create lots of washing for me!!!

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pjsmum · 13/06/2007 20:25

MadameP its an 8-6pm 365 days nursery I think I'll still have to pay.
SMScientist, i know exactly what you mean. DD will do anything to get out of her car seat as it is not I hate to imagine what she will get up too with just a lap strap!
I have spoken to them about it and they said that the smaller ones would be sitting next to an adult but to be honest that doesn't make me feel any better about it. Thay are going to Chester Zoo for the day. I think its great that they are prepared to do this but I'd rather take dd myself. It just means that I'll have to speak to my headteacher about either having the day off (probably as unpaid leave) or taking her into school for the day. How my class of 10 and 11 year olds will love that!

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nurseryvoice · 14/06/2007 12:59

I dont understand this?
If service is being withdrawn then you should not have to pay.
I really think they should provide alternative care for children who dont want to go. Otherwise it takes the choice away from you. What does your contract say??

oliveoil · 14/06/2007 13:04

is it a coach?

then I am sure that the nursery will have researched it thoroughly - they can't seem to scratch their arse without permission nowadays - mine have to do a full Health and Safety thing on all trips etc

what are the other mums to toddlers doing?

dmo · 15/06/2007 11:32

does your dd go every day if not i am sure they will swop the day for you
my friends dd goes to full time nursery mon/tues/wed on weds my friend had to take her dd out at lunch time to visit dds new primary school nursery said to my friend that she could take her on thurs afternoon as dd was missing weds afternoon

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ruddynorah · 15/06/2007 11:53

i would say you would still have to pay but they should offer to give you another day in place of the missed day. ie.. my dd goes to nursery mondays and thursdays. we still pay for the bank holidays, but we can choose to put her into nursery on another day in the month the bank holiday falls. if however we choose not to use another day, we still pay.

dilbertina · 16/06/2007 13:10

any chance they could check whether coach has any 3 point seatbelts and you provide a car-seat? Or would you really rather she didn't go in any case?

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pjsmum · 16/06/2007 20:14

Nursery have checked out all the health and safety issues regarding the seat belts, and apparently buses and coaches do not have to provide anything other than a seat belt. I have spoken to nursery on Friday and they have said that only the under 2 babies will still have their normal day care as all over 2 staff will be going on the trip. There is no way that they will provide alternative care for that day. they are considering whether I will pay or not.
DD goes to nursery every day so I can't swap it for another day.
Dilbertina- to be honest I'm not happy with her not having a carseat at all, so I don't think I'd still let her go even with a 3 point seat belt.
I'm sure that the nursery have covered everything to make this a safe trip, their risk assessment must be massive! They must do these trip frquently as they were already about next years one!
Will just have to wait and see whether I do have to pay. If i do, I do and if i don't i'll take dd myself with the money!!

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Genidef · 16/06/2007 23:05

A local nursery we used for a period of time planned a summer trip - and get a load of this - did not provide enough places on the bus for all children and a guardian (and they could only go with a parent/guardian) to attend. Helpful, hey? And yes we had to pay.

jetgirl · 20/06/2007 20:30

Our school minibus uses booster seats for the short kids - I teach at a secondary school, so I'm surprised that such small children can go on a coach.

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