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Hmm, interesting and bizarre sounding theory. Satanism in music/Part 2

228 replies

OmarDaze · 20/03/2011 19:22

Grin
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bigbumfatarse · 21/03/2011 22:58

I'm so intrigued can I have a summary please?

claig · 21/03/2011 23:02

bigbumfatarse, there is a wealth of knowledge in the first thread (which reached the 1000 post limit due to the level of detail with which the subject was treated).

JayZIsTakingOverTheWorld · 22/03/2011 10:47

Basically Jay Z, Kanye West, Rihanna and Beyonce are all puppets of the Illuminati who are slowly trying to brainwash us by getting us all to make triangle signs with our hands (Also known as "throwing a ROC" Hmm)

Be warned.

Do not make the sign or you will be under the spell.

They have a plan (but no-one knows what it is)

nenevomito · 22/03/2011 10:58

I'm actually quite pleased about Jarvis Cocker. I've finally been able to listen to some decent music in my search for the truth!

claig · 22/03/2011 12:02

I hadn't listened to much rap before, but some of it is very good. It is seductive, hypnotic and clever. Exactly as intended. The same negative old messages constantly expounded. But even with that, I still prefer it to Jarvis Cocker.

BanalChelping · 22/03/2011 13:16

I can barely breathe.

They've got you! They're trying to make you lose the will to breathe, it's all part of The Plan. Or something Grin

peskykitty · 22/03/2011 13:19

Grin, but, I'm already in.

BanalChelping · 22/03/2011 13:24

Are you an illuminati Kitty? What's madonna like? Is she really wrinkly up close?

peskykitty · 22/03/2011 13:45

I would not normally post a personal pic, but in the interest of this thread, it may be relevant mum and dad

loopylou6 · 22/03/2011 17:18

Wow claig that song is Shock

claig · 22/03/2011 17:54

I must admit I do think it is a great record. Really hypnotic, enticing you into a trancelike state. That is the efect it is aiming at. The negative hook is constantly reinforced and stays in the mind caught up in the trance. Imagine how the hypnotic hook affects younger minds.

There is another video on youtube by an ex-military person which analyses these rap videos . He says they are almost military, often Beyonce sings about soldiers, and the beat is a marching beat, and the rappers wear dogtags around their necks with their names on them. That is an interesting perspective.

claig · 22/03/2011 19:26

In fact, very many of the Rocafella videos are spiritual. They are about the corruption of the soul in the search for power, they are about selling the soul to the devil, they are about sin and redemption, death and rebirth. They are about the battle for the soul between good and evil, between God and Satan, between humanity and the Illuminati.

But they are on the side of Satan and the Illuminati as they flash and broadcast their symbols to the unsuspecting young audience. They are glorifying Satan. They are glorifying crime, death and suicide. They are the doorway to the underworld, the criminal underworld and Hades, where the journey will end as the innocent meets the dark Lord, Satan. They invoke Satan with their signs, they praise him with their signals, and the lyrics reflect his aims and values. As JayZ says

"Dear God I wonder can you save me?
Illuminati want my mind, soul and my body"

claig · 22/03/2011 19:54

MN has many Guardian readers, and judging by some of the views about the Coalition, Cameron and Osborne and the quite scurrilous attacks on the Daily Mail, quite possibly some readers of the communist 'Morning Star'. I wonder if those readers are also innocent dupes and, just like MNers totally oblivious to satanic symbols being flashed in their faces, are not aware that 'Morning Star' is one of Lucifer's many names.

nenevomito · 22/03/2011 21:01

I think my complete lack of belief in the existence of satan really impacts on my ability to take this seriously.

Even if they are purposefully displaying what have been designated as satanic images in folklore or popular culture, as there is no satan IMVHO, its a bit, well, meaningless.

MrsKarwash · 22/03/2011 21:34

Hello Claig, good to see you won't let this one lie.

It must be really important to you!

BTW did you know that 'The Mail on Sunday' is an anagram of

SATAN NUDE HOMILY ?

Just thought you should be as fully informed as possible Smile

MrsKarwash · 22/03/2011 21:34

Hello Claig, good to see you won't let this one lie.

It must be really important to you!

BTW did you know that 'The Mail on Sunday' is an anagram of

SATAN NUDE HOMILY ?

Just thought you should be as fully informed as possible Smile

MrsKarwash · 22/03/2011 21:36

Ooh spooky I think the devil's afoot tonight....

claig · 22/03/2011 21:57

What does HOMILY mean?

Thinking more about it, the videos are really about possession. Young and Sasha Fierce are possessed by the devil, Young initiated Sasha Fierce. The videos are recruitment campaigns for more initiates. The reason the artists flash their signs is to show their allegiance. They are part of the gang, they have been possessed, just like a Crips gang member will wear Crips' insignia and flash Crips' signs.

I am sure JayZ is a nice guy really. He says that it is the "comedian" in him that causes him to play this part, that he is an entertainer. He has to sell it to himself that way, but he knows it is not true. He is possessed and makes the signs because he has sold out. If you read the youtube comments on his videos, you will be hard-pressed to find one comment in support of him. There is near unanimity from young people that he is an illuminati puppet and that he has sold out. Everyone knows it. Lots of other rappers slag him off as well. I'm sure he would prefer it to be different, but he made his choice, he took the silver.

babyheave, I also don't believe in Satan. but I could well be wrong, maybe there really is a Satan. I doubt that these people really believe in Satan, but who knows maybe they do. But it is what is signified by Satan, what he represents that matters, not whether he is real or not. We construct meaning from the world, what we imagine can become real. Evil intentions can become real. JayZ says "we grew black-hearted". Hitler said something like "they laughed at us once ... but they're not laughing now". This isn't down to JayZ and Rocafella. Of course, he is a puppet. This is above his pay grade. Someone is promoting Satanism, someone has unleashed the hounds of hell, Cerberus is off his chain. Someone wants to "save the planet" and you won't be laughing then.

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 22/03/2011 21:59

I think' homily' is American for 'sermon'

claig · 22/03/2011 22:07

thanks, MN is very educational. I am constantly improving my vocabulary. Smile

nenevomito · 22/03/2011 22:23

claig - do we agree on something? That satan doesn't exist?

Yay, we said it would happen at some point!

claig · 22/03/2011 22:26

Yes we agree on that Grin

nenevomito · 22/03/2011 22:29
Grin

It only took around 1300 posts!

ShinyMoonInAPurpleSky · 23/03/2011 09:42

It's also an anagram of SANTA NUDE HOMILY!

Now that is shocking! Whatever homily means it can't be good if both Satan and Santa are doing it nude!

ShinyMoonInAPurpleSky · 23/03/2011 23:11

Ooops I killed the thread :(

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