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Webchat with John McDonnell MP, Shadow Chancellor, Tuesday 18 September at 11am

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JustineMumsnet · 17/09/2018 10:24

We’re very pleased to announce a webchat with the Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, this Tuesday 18 September at 11am.

John has been Labour MP for Hayes and Harlington since 1997. Born in Liverpool, he studied at night school while working before going to university. He went on to work as a union official and in local government at the GLC and at Camden Council. He campaigned for Jeremy Corbyn to win the Labour leadership in 2015 and has been Shadow Chancellor since then.

He describes his vision for the UK economy as ‘socialism with an iPad’, centred around research, investment and ‘alternative forms of ownership and control’ such as nationalisation, co-operatives, and locally-owned enterprises. He has proved a controversial figure in some quarters, with particular attention paid to his 2003 remarks about the IRA, for which he apologised. He has described Labour’s anti-semitism row as a low point, and has been quoted as saying ‘we have got to sort this out’.

Please do join the chat on Tuesday at 11am, or if you can’t make it, leave a question here in advance.

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Webchat with John McDonnell MP, Shadow Chancellor, Tuesday 18 September at 11am
prettybird · 18/09/2018 13:17

He has proven what I already knew that Labour is an irrelevance in Scotland.

They don't give a fuck that Scotland voted strongly to Remain and that Brexit is really going to fuck Scotland over Angry

Ah well Wink, the good news is that Brexit will bring Scottish independence closer Smile - and Labour will have played its part in bringing that day forward Smile

ilovesooty · 18/09/2018 13:17

pearlkent you usually use the Royal we then?

FloPen · 18/09/2018 13:21

if it helps sooty , pearlkent was speaking for me as well

RedDogsBeg · 18/09/2018 13:22

His mum, the biological female who gave birth to him, who was not assigned her 'gender' at birth whose history is now being dismissed by the ideology he seemingly supports.

CheeseTheDay · 18/09/2018 13:23

Damn, I lost track of time whilst preparing our Seudat Mafseket (meal before the Yom Kippur fast), and missed the live chat.

I am encouraged (if only slightly) by the response, because engaging with the Jewish community who do feel let down is important, but actions speak louder than words.

placemats · 18/09/2018 13:24

I can only surmise from the answers that John McDonnell answered Yea to believing that Brexit is good for UK and Northern Ireland. But doesn't have a clue, like who does, when it comes to Northern Ireland.

He's throwing out the baby with the bath water on this.

Man up.

Hazardswan · 18/09/2018 13:24

Whose the who man inspired me most?

That goes to my sperm donor, the way he created life without a second thought for the responsibility of it, then the way he abused the woman carrying said life is so go getting. He taught me to be a selfish fucker. Unfortunately for me I was heavily influenced by my mother and it's made me considerate of others....sometimes i even care.

pearlkent · 18/09/2018 13:25

ilovesooty - so sorry to have accidentally used 'we' , but having read widely on the FWR board I am definitely not alone in my views.

I take it you don't care about women's rights, hence I don't give a stuff what he said or didn't say about self ID?

placemats · 18/09/2018 13:26

And I can't believe he actually answered the question about his favourite biscuit.

You are a fudge bar. Enjoy.

ilovesooty · 18/09/2018 13:26

I'm sure pearlkent spoke for many - but not everybody.

pearlkent · 18/09/2018 13:27

Thanks FloPen

bellinisurge · 18/09/2018 13:27

He knows what he's doing. He wants us to crash out of the EU and then, in desperation, people will vote for his kind of Labour so that he can institute Chavez type changes.

LastTrainEast · 18/09/2018 13:27

Wish he'd been clearer as I'm not sure why a consensus between women & trans is required on whether to keep women's rights.

ilovesooty · 18/09/2018 13:28

You take it as you please.
I was much more interested in what he might say on other matters.

LunaLovegoodsRadishes · 18/09/2018 13:28

As expected, I learned nothing new.

placemats · 18/09/2018 13:30

Seriously, I don't mean to be ageist (actually, I do seeing as I, a 57 year old woman am no longer deemed fit for return to employment because of my age), but can you believe that this man, who has done little by way of getting Labour into power over several decades, is being taken seriously?

mostdays · 18/09/2018 13:31

I don't give a stuff what he said or didn't say about self ID.
Me neither.

mostdays · 18/09/2018 13:33

I take it you don't care about women's rights, hence I don't give a stuff what he said or didn't say about self ID?

Who on earth do you think you are? This is getting pathetic. It is possible to care about women's rights without agreeing with you!

pearlkent · 18/09/2018 13:35

mostdays and sooty - may I respectfully ask why neither of you have ANY interest in self ID? It has massive implications for women's rights.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 18/09/2018 13:35

Wish he'd been clearer as I'm not sure why a consensus between women & trans is required on whether to keep women's rights.

Exactly the point I made to him and he showed his true colours - as with all these men, they really don't care about women's rights but they care about numbers and noise..

I hate the talk of consensus. Just one of those meaningless words politicians spout.
I want my daughter to be able to get changed to go swimming without a naked penis in proximity.
Some people want to self id so that their naked penis is in proximity to my daughter.
Where's the solution that keeps both parties happy?

Exactly - consensus building is such an obfuscation for don't care

GretchenFranklin · 18/09/2018 13:35

MN: John can you define what 'woman' means?

JOHN: Well. I am listening and consulting and having some more meetings to hopefully find consensus.

wtaf

LunaLovegoodsRadishes · 18/09/2018 13:52

Hey John! waves I have female anatomy so therefore I'm a woman! No consensus needed!

volica · 18/09/2018 13:59

Seemed a bit Nicola Murray-ish "Pretend you heard another question!"

Mrsr8 · 18/09/2018 14:39

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Yvaine1 · 18/09/2018 14:42

John, you're the alternative? Really?

We are fucked. Building a consensus on women's rights was the top hat.

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