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Rebuilding financial security in marriage after hidden debts and losing our home

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Oneforeachdecade · Today 15:42

Long post… thank you if you get to the end!
I'm hoping there may be people here who have been through something similar and can offer both practical advice and a bit of support.

After many years of nose diving, about 6 months ago, my family ended up in severe financial difficulty and were eventually evicted from our home. We are still displaced and trying to rebuild our lives.
Much of what happened was connected to my husband's business. He is not a bad man and I don't want this to turn into husband-bashing. He loves his family and wants the best for us. However, he has taken risks and many of the financial decisions that got us here were driven by him rather than being genuinely joint decisions, and I believe he bears a significant share of the responsibility for where we ended up.
We were never truly financially aligned as once we had kids, he was the bread winner. We didn't have access to each other's accounts (a lot of these are tied to his work), many decisions were made without my involvement, and I often relied on information I was being given. On the surface it looked as though we had a comfortable life, but I didn't realise how much borrowing and financial pressure was behind the scenes.
The problems have developed over many years. Just a hole that got deeper and deeper until it felt almost impossible to climb out. Looking back, I think we both became paralysed by it and then crashed in a big way with the house repossession process- which I wasn’t aware that we were heading to.
I genuinely didn't know the full picture, eg I later discovered that friends and my own mother had lent my husband substantial sums of money without my knowledge. When alarm bells did start ringing, I did try to understand what was happening, asked questions and sought advice from professionals at different points, but often felt I was getting partial information, vague reassurance or being passed from one place to another. Quite often at the 11th hour, any major issues were resolved. I really wish someone had clearly explained just how serious the situation was becoming.
Once the alarm bells really started ringing for me, I increased my working hours, began building separate finances and put as much of my own income as possible into savings to create a rainy-day fund for myself and the children.
The difficulties haven't gone away. My husband's financial position remains poor, he has CCJs, and over the last six months I feel as though I have been constantly putting out financial fires caused by decisions he has made. I also feel that I've been set back in terms of my own choices, opportunities and financial security.
One of the biggest challenges is that we don't see what happened in the same way. What he tends to view as a setback or a blip, I experienced as catastrophic. Losing our home, seeing our family uprooted and still dealing with the consequences has caused a huge amount of hurt, frustration and anxiety.
The impact hasn't just been financial. Our relationship has taken a real hit, and so has the wider family. There is a lot of tension, resentment and sadness, and if I'm honest things often feel unhappy and bleak at the moment.
I'm now in my 50s and still have two children depending on us with an adult child also emotionally impacted. Claiming benefits or council help is not an option, so the safety net many people assume exists has not really been available to me.
I do own a small property in my sole name, but after crunching the numbers it isn't currently viable for me and the children to live there. If I'm honest, part of my anxiety comes from no longer feeling able to rely on my husband's financial judgement or financial contribution in the way I once did.
I don't want to leave my husband for various personal and practical reasons. What I do want is to become financially secure, knowledgeable and independent while remaining married. I want to protect myself and my children better, rebuild confidence around money and create a safer future.
Has anyone rebuilt from something similar?
How did you create financial security while staying in the relationship?
What practical steps made the biggest difference?
Are there organisations, resources or sources of support that helped?
How do you move forward when you no longer trust their judgement around money?

Thank you for reading. I'm looking for practical advice, shared experiences and perhaps a sympathetic ear from people who understand that these situations can creep up slowly over time rather than arriving all at once.

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DeedlessIndeed · Today 16:00

Gosh, OP I am so sorry. I cannot imagine the difficulty rebuilding trust after such a shock.

I haven't been through similar. But I am a SAHM so I am really financially vulnerable by default. What has worked with my husband and I has been complete transparency of all shared finances.

So all wages pay into joint account where all our bills go out of.

We agree budgets and financial goals around the table, with our laptops and spreadsheet in front of us. (Sounds very awkward writing this out - but it is a nice evening when you get into the swing of it)

I might research savings pots / investment funds / ISAs etc but we both discuss and agree.

All the account passwords are saved into our family password manager so that we both have access.

I do a monthly sweep to go over all the accounts to keep an eye on any rogue issues like forgotten DDs.

It might sound boring, but for us it helps to build financial trust. DH can trust I am not going to go out and spend all the family savings. I can trust that issues like tax returns are done on time and can be budgeted for in advance.

Sounds like perhaps the muddling of your DH's business and personal accounts perhaps started the lack of transparency. Could he make this a much clearer distinction so that you can get full insight?

cartagenagina · Today 16:35

All the time you’re married, you sacrifice your financial security because of this man.

Would you consider divorce but staying in a relationship with him? I wouldn’t bother staying with him, but you seem keen for some reason.

Soontobe60 · Today 16:40

I honestly don’t know how you can stay in this marriage.

Oneforeachdecade · Today 17:44

Thank you for the responses. I understand the points made about why am I staying married. It’s not about the person, it’s about the situation. At this point, there are practical, and potential child custody reasons that would make it hard for me to leave. I do not have enough info or advice right now about what my position would look like and what my rights are regarding my kids, my finances and his entitlements (I could currently be in a better position). I wanted advice about getting myself financially stable and then I can make the best decision about what I do personally.

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AWeekAndADay · Today 18:07

It's very obvious you won't do well personally till you leave and start living life yourself. That is not a good husband or dad that puts his family in such a terrible position so don't fool yourself! If he loves and cares for you all of you wouldn't be in a bad position right now. 17 years married 17years of joint accounts DH and I have access. All big decisions we make together and the rest is spent as we want. On the odd occasion when bored I will flick thru and I can never fault dh everything paid on time for years no problem because that's what a good husband does for his wife and kids

Meadowfinch · Today 18:25

One word of warning OP. If your dh sees the current situation as a blip, he is seeing it as minor, and therefore may try to recoup the money with a "get rich quick" scheme. His attitude to risk is not the same as yours. You need to be sure you understand any plans he has to resolve the situation, because given his poor judgement, he may make the situation worse.

Someone I know used their home as collateral for a business loan, the business failed, the house was repossessed by the bank, then I discovered the man concerned was trying to borrow more money to try to set the business going again. He couldn't accept that he was wrong about it.

Please be careful.

I think if you maintain your bank accounts in your sole name, and keep your little house in your name too, as long as you are married, you retain control and his creditors cannot come after you.

However, bear in mind that at any point, he could choose to divorce you and try to take half of what you have left. It is a miserable situation.

FKAT · Today 18:30

Your OP is like saying "I want to stay on the Titanic but I don't want to drown."

Marriage is a financial contract with assumed shared property. You are financially enmeshed with someone who made you homeless, has no credit record and no income. You are very lucky to have a separate property but if he gets into more debt, the creditors will have no qualms in taking it off you.

Oneforeachdecade · Today 19:02

Thanks all. I am very aware of the implications this has for me, including potentially taking half of what I already have myself. I’m aware of how it looks for me from the outside looking in, which is why I’ve shared my experiences here.
If I wanted others to say ‘why are you staying in the marriage? Or simply saying what I should have been doing all along, i would not have come here to ask. What I’m looking for from here is this:

Has anyone rebuilt from something similar?
How did you create financial security while staying in the relationship?

What practical steps made the biggest difference?

Are there organisations, resources or sources of support that helped?

How do you move forward when you no longer trust their judgement around money?

I’m looking for practical advice, shared experiences and perhaps a sympathetic ear from people who understand that these situations can creep up slowly over time rather than arriving all at once.

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Crikeyalmighty · Today 19:16

I have been in a position where we had to put a company into liquidation OP due to a foreign distributors non payment over several months and we were lucky that we rented ata point where you could for 13weeks get your actual rent paid ( and ours was quite high) not just an allowance -within those 13 weeks we had a new business partner and a £10k advance for 10 weeks till we built up some project work with them. Your husband was very wrong not to make you aware he was in shit street and by the nature of it so were all of you and to take huge decisions without your input - however if you wish to stay married and I’m pretty sure you have been through this lots of times in your head I would say the biggie is ‘what’s going on now’ - with business/borrowings/tax/liquidation etc- Are you fully in the picture of the exact state of play - ? You need to be before you can decide how to protect yourself going forward - the advice I would give very much depends on where things stand on that front - I feel for you lovely- it wasa frightening and insecure time and was bad , even in our case when it was no one’s fault .

cartagenagina · Today 19:18

I don’t think you can build financial security while staying in the relationship though. That’s the problem.

Offherrockingchair · Today 19:24

Quite frankly, the pair of you need to grow up. You need to see what is right in front of you clearly and he needs to stop minimizing the upset he has caused. You also need to shoulder some responsibility as it sounds like you were incredibly naive for the majority of the pre-crisis period. How could you not have known? And for him to borrow from your own DM, behind your back?! That’s simply despicable in my book and I’d divorce him
for that alone.

RosaNovella · Today 19:28

Unless your DH takes full accountability @Oneforeachdecade then the answer is you cannot
The type of deceit and behaviour, particularly the lack of empathy for you and the impact this is having on you and your DC is the hallmark of Personality disorder
You cannot rebuild trust or financial security unless he accepts his flaws, acknowledges the impact and seeks counselling
This made me feel ill, Im so sorry yet the man who has caused it is being flippant

Wallywobbles · Today 19:32

You absolutely cannot ever rebuild the trust. As soon as you realize that they can no longer be trusted in a certain area the trust in that is gone forever.
I also think that you are putting yourself snd your kids at massive risk because marriage is a financial contract first and foremost. You desperately desperately need legal advice to find out what you still have on the line. Because rock bottom is still someway down from where you are now.
Who will be paying back your friends and family? Might they also be coming after you? You have an awful lot of debtors left.

Kirschcherries · Today 19:50

Has anyone rebuilt from something similar?
How did you create financial security while staying in the relationship?
What practical steps made the biggest difference?
Are there organisations, resources or sources of support that helped?
How do you move forward when you no longer trust their judgement around money?

  • Total honesty about all debts, income, expenditure
  • Fully document debts, income and expenditure
  • Plans to pay back debts
  • Initially having a weekly meeting to review spending the previous week and agree spending for the next week - over time as trust increases move to monthly meetings
  • Absolutely no expenditure unless you both agree.
  • Potentially financial counselling
  • Both returning to PAYE employment - no trying to start another business.
  • National DebtLine and Citizens Advice https://www.gov.uk/debt-advice

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SoBoredOfSelfDoubtHowToGetOut · Today 20:09

You cannot build financial security with this man.

He has secretly borrowed money. Made unilateral and catastrophic financial decisions.

He is simply not to be trusted.

Those are the facts.

Novody so going to be able to give you advice because you are living with a liability. No matter what you do, it will be messed up by this man.

I guarantee that as soon as you shed him, you can start to build again.

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