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Paying off mortgage when house is a dump

11 replies

peppapigpants · 26/07/2026 08:48

DH is terminally ill. In his will, everything is left to me, although 99% of what we have is joint anyway. He wants to gift his brother enough money to pay off his mortgage, and do it now before he dies (hopefully he will be with us at least into 2027). It's a secured loan and a mortgage totalling less than 40k, with the house worth around 150k in good condition. BIL is in his late 50s, married, no kids. His wife has 2 adult children. We can very comfortably afford to gift this and I fully support DH.

However, this is the tricky bit. We live overseas. DH hadn't been to BIL's house for about 8 years, and BIL bought it over 20 years ago. We are visiting UK, DH needed to pick some things up from BIL and we drove around to collect them, they were in the back of his car. Afterwards, BIL invited us in for a cuppa and said it was a bit of a mess. We had time, and had been driving for over 2 hours and I knew I could do with using the bathroom, and we accepted. The garage is at the back of the house and we went straight into the kitchen. It's a 3 bedroom terrace.

The kitchen was filthy. The cooker was missing several knobs, cupboard doors were damaged. The table was cluttered including a washing basket full of ripped off wallpaper from the kitchen walls (suspect it had been there ages). We weren't invited into the living room but stood in the kitchen. DH had a coffee and I drank water from a mug as BIL couldn't find any glasses - fine with me. The back door was open and there were 5 or 6 flies in the kitchen, which didnt help. When I went up to the loo, there was no flooring in the hallway, stairs or landing, just bare floorboards, and the landing was heavily stained like the dogs or cats had used it as a toilet. The loo wasn't clean but I really needed to go. All of the walls and doors were really grubby, well beyond finger marks. The wall covering in the loo was peeling off and looked as if you would pull all the plaster off too if you tugged it. There wasn't a sink in the toilet, so I went in the bathroom and there wasn't one there either, just a space where it used to be.

When I got downstairs, BIL offered me soap to wash my hands at the kitchen sink, saying he'd taken the sink out last year. I can't began to describe the dereliction and filth, I was glad there were no children living there. Both BIL and SIL work full time. He said she doesn’t clean at all and he's given up because of the pets.

We really want to gift the money, which we would do by direct payment to the lenders, as BIL has agreed would also be his preference. The dilemma is that the house will still be in this state even if BIL has more disposable income. However, it's a gift, not a loan and there can be no conditions attached. It's just that we wanted to improve BIL's quality of life by easing the strain on his finances as he nears retirement but we didnt picture him living in a derelict pigsty while his bank balance got healthier. DH is convinced that BIL won't sort or clean the house even if he has the funds to do so.

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REDB99 · 26/07/2026 08:54

I think I’d agree with DH, keeping the house clean is very different to having the funds for redecorating or renovations. If he isn’t at all motivated to keep the house clean now I’m not sure how money would change that. Ripping out a sink and not replacing it is an odd decision as is ripping off wallpaper and just leaving it. Allowing animals to do their business in the house is equally odd. He doesn’t care about his home, it isn’t your responsibility to do so.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 26/07/2026 08:56

Agreed with above.

I'd be rethinking giving them anything tbh.
Are there mental health issues? Would the money be better spent on therapy / mental health support.

BasketCaseBug · 26/07/2026 09:07

The two things don't really correlate to me, DH wanted to make his brother life easier by not worrying about mortgage payments and paying off his mortgage would still achieve that regardless the state of the house.

If the house was immaculate his bank balance would still be getting healthier so I'm not sure I understand the difference. You won't be living there either way so no impact on you.

TisEye · 26/07/2026 09:22

I agree with basket case

we wanted to improve BIL's quality of life by easing the strain on his finances as he nears retirement

Why is he only deserving of that if his house is in good order?

Don't get me wrong, it sounds an appalling way to live and I have no idea why anyone would chose to live that way assuming he has the funds to sort a lot of it, but I don't get the rationale of not wanting to help him in retirement anymore?

Hohofortherobbers · 26/07/2026 09:30

It sounds disgusting but that doesn't change your decision about helping him. It's going to be the same either way.
If he had more money might ge get a tradesman in the fix things? Could you suggest you pay down the mortgage significantly and gift him the remaining money directly to get the house sorted professionally?

Donotpanicoknowpanic · 26/07/2026 09:37

If he had no mortgage

Depending how much of a stress the mortgage is putting on their finances

He could then pay someone to do the house up for him

If at the end of every month they have used all there money up and they both work full time and a generally not DIY inclined

This may or may not happen, and some people are just messy, but it could

rwalker · 26/07/2026 09:39

I used to work for one of the utilities and the state of the house is common

what people can’t get the head around is that’s how the person chooses to live many many times it’s a lifestyle choice they don’t care and happy to live like that
no backstory or mental illness

always makes my laugh that people jump straight to them having a mental illness because they live in a shithole in a lot of cases it’s no more complicated than they don’t care
Please don’t offer to have the house done up it they want to do that they would of made in roads into it your making judgments and imposing there standards on them

Tel12 · 26/07/2026 09:57

This is how he chooses to live and no amount of money is going to change it. Have witnessed this in my own extended family. Even when a lot of money is spent on improvement the house just slides back to the same state. Just gift the money and know you've done your best to help.

peppapigpants · 26/07/2026 10:25

There's a loan that ends Dec 2027 costing £450/month, we can settle that next month. The mortgage term is unclear, but the monthly payment is just over £400. We're agreed on setting the loan but the mortgage has been a hot topic between us this week. Ultimately I think we will do that too as a gift is a gift, the circumstances are not our business.

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Bjorkdidit · 26/07/2026 21:35

It's just that we wanted to improve BIL's quality of life by easing the strain on his finances as he nears retirement but we didnt picture him living in a derelict pigsty while his bank balance got healthier. DH is convinced that BIL won't sort or clean the house even if he has the funds to do so

If they both work full time and their mortgage is only
£450 pm then it will hardly make a difference whether or not its paid off. Even with a small mortgage they still have a very healthy income even if they're on NMW. They might even have loads of savings.

Its nice your DH wants to help them but it doesn't sound like this is about money.

UbiquitousPistachio · 26/07/2026 22:44

It’s a wonderful gesture and will be appreciated by them, as long as it is given freely and without conditions or judgement.

Hopefully you and DH will get real joy from being able to make this gift and they will of course benefit financially from being mortgage free.

Thats it.
The appalling state of the house doesn’t come into it.

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