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MLM Bot Watch 53: The saga continues...

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GoldenKelpie · 28/08/2019 08:00

Starting a new thread on all things MLM!

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Norma27 · 14/09/2019 13:19

Love the fact welshbot has a Gucci belt too. Were there fakes being sold at one of the ‘holidays’ they went on.
Yawn’s bff stating how awesome it is a fellow bot now never misses a moment with their kids. Whilst they are in Coventry attending a brainwashing event without their kids! The bloody irony!

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 13:21

Oh ha haaaaaa

They have no seats in front of the main stage, everyone has to stand for the 'recognitions'; that way there'll be no empty seats on show!

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 13:29

Gucci belts are the sort of thing people buy at airports while waiting for a connecting flight in Dubai or somewhere, thinking they have a duty free bargain.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 14/09/2019 13:47

At least they won't have to stand for very long while the 'recognitions' are dealt with.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 14/09/2019 14:13

Just watched Uber's live. There's nobody there!!

Jigsawpuzzle · 14/09/2019 14:22

Did anyone else hear the pin drop?
What happens if you can’t/won’t attend, do you get sent to Coventry?

Whiterangey · 14/09/2019 14:37

I guess they can get away with it because new bots obviously won't remember the old success days. There were literally thousands of people there.

The country manager used to publish names of those who had made manager each month, I believe assistant manager as well. That ended last year due to not enough qualifying. The top bots used to do the same on their pages.

You go back to 2015/16 and their facebooks are full of congratulating new managers in their team. Now it's a red letter day when that happens.

It's papering over the cracks, keeping up appearances that success day is still successful. The same thing the top bots are doing as well. A Gucci belt is not a sign of success, it's a sign you paid money for something to cinch your clothes in at the waist.

When you are are teetering precariously on the precipice of total financial ruin, losing absolutely everything, a Gucci belt will not change that, although it will still be something to cinch your clothes in at the waist.

FLP UK accounts are due in 16 days. They usually appear about a week later. Should be interesting reading especially with the figures regarding new FBO's which are the key to how much money that FLP make in the UK. Of course it's not about recruitment.

Yes, another day away from the children from the opportunity that markets itself as family friendly yet takes you away from your children when they need you most, like at exam time.

My husband has travelled abroad for work, some nice places too, I would never go with him and leave the children alone just for a jolly.

Also, how much training can you have? Bots are trained to death and all training i've ever seen or read related to botting is the same apart from minor differences. It's all designed to encourage you to part with your money for the benefit of the person doing the training.

Gotmychocolateimgood · 14/09/2019 14:43

So Uber is diamond sapphire now. Meh. Nice sash love.

Very cosy set up in the pod Grin

Norma27 · 14/09/2019 14:49

Doesn’t look like people pretty local like nurse, receipt, recently promoted bots have bothered with ‘success’ day. Might be wrong though.

Whiterangey · 14/09/2019 15:16

Uber and Yawn's Ratners titles are meaningless. Most of the managers they needed to get to receive those titles are long gone. It just shows they have been shilling the longest.

I've just had a thought, Yawn did 2500cc's last year, only just, so that equates to just over £50k or thereabouts.

Companies house shows a £170k loan or thereabouts. Every single year she pays it off and then borrows the money again. This means she has to pay tax on the borrowed money as I read something to do with the directors loans being a way to not pay tax for a bit?

So the tax on the directors loan would likely be at least £30k per year. So she would only be taking home about £20k per year. Is that right? In 2018 it's listed in her accounts that she only paid £5k tax.

Only paying £5k tax in a year obviously doesn't indicate a high earner, but does that mean she is paying more tax on the £170k directors loan?

Accountants are underpaid to be able to decipher this.

Norma27 · 14/09/2019 15:19

Uber having no confidence in herself 13 years ago. Bullshit. I was friends with her 20 years ago and up til the point she joined forever shite. She had more self importance and belief than anyone I have known before or since.

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 15:48

Yawn says 'think what you could do in life if you knew you couldn't fail'

Well words fail me! Tell that to the thousands who have lost money in Forever Living!!!

Norma27 · 14/09/2019 15:49

Yawn- there is nothing wrong with being a big person, but bloody hell. The filtered pics you show and then the reality of pics and videos other people post is astounding.
And no, this is not bullying. It is calling you out for the bloody liar and con artist you are. You portray a completely fake image and lifestyle.
Can’t wait to see you lose it all along with the rest of the liars in forever shite.

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 15:50

@Whiterangey
I wish someone could explain all this to me!

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 15:52

@Norma27 are any of her minions there? She usually does a team photo

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 16:01

I'm afraid I couldn't watch all of Yawn's gushing speech (which consisted of telling the lowly bots to put stuff on their dream board I think)
Bit I did watch the short film that was shown, filmed at her house and she bloody well said something like 'people will tell you you can't do it, ignore them'
Urgh

Also, agreed, a very poor 'product of the product' in terms of shilling C9s and weight loss shakes.

Norma27 · 14/09/2019 16:03

Sponge (sorry I don't know how to link properly). One named after a precious jewel is there. Think one of roomies friends is too. The local ones don't seem to be tho.
I live very local and would love to pop in one day!

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 16:06

Omg I watched the above on one of her downline's pages (first name the same as the group name) and she's put a photo of the white RR on saying this is the car FL will be buying for her! Looks like other minions took photos with the car too
So Yawn's strategy is working on her minions!

Norma27 · 14/09/2019 16:10

Forgot the precious jewel was her group name!
How tacky getting your victim to take their pic next to the car you can't afford. Bloody vulture.

FranceTeam · 14/09/2019 16:13

Remember accounts only show the limited companies tax liabilities and payments. So would only be corporation tax.

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 16:23

Blooooody hell
The precious jewel bot did an input and gave away some interesting details
From 1st Oct they'll be getting up at 5.30am twice a week to have a team 'power hour's
They check in at lunchtime with each other
They have 2 evenings online a week with the team

Gotta keep everyone focused and not questioning the business!!!!

Whiterangey · 14/09/2019 17:10

5:30am? When you are tired you are more easily persuaded. They are Yawn's income so she wants them buying as much aloe shite as possible.

The white rangey is THE bot car, I think dream boards come with it's photo already attached. Yawn knows exactly what she is doing to those women. Group name bot is a school teacher I believe, not a profession known for it's sky high wages. Not to mention Nurse, which again is a profession not known for a decent wage.

What these top bots do is infuriating, especially as there isn't anything we can do. We know the top bots are hanging on by their fingertips, we know Yawn will lose everything within the next couple of years, maybe 3 if what has been said about an inheritance is correct.

Not soon enough, how many people are going to be financially harmed in that time? How many made to feel like rubbish when they don't succeed because it's impossible?

I wish they would change the law and make MLM's illegal, unfortunately our politicians seem a little preoccupied with something else.

9dartfinish2nd · 14/09/2019 17:12

Sleep deprivation is a well known cult tactic.

Whiterangey · 14/09/2019 18:22

I noticed Yawns cheque from 3 and a half years ago was in the video. It's going to reach antique status before she puts it away.

I have to say this after what i've just seen, I think it's fair game talking about her weight with regards to her use of the C9 and how she proves that it doesn't work. The C9 is dangerous.

I personally am going to stop even commenting regarding that after seeing the videos. There was also a comment by another bot on one of the videos, which was a thinly disguised dig.

Feeling sorry for Yawn makes me feel uncomfortable.

Spongebobette · 14/09/2019 18:24

I don't think the jewel bot is a teacher
She says she 'works in a secondary school's
If she was a teacher she'd say so
Probably a teaching asst or works in the office