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MLM Bot Watch 53: The saga continues...

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GoldenKelpie · 28/08/2019 08:00

Starting a new thread on all things MLM!

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TheHorseOnSeventhAvenue · 08/09/2019 22:14

I am not that smart or intelligent but did have a maths teacher who used QED - case proven!

Whiterangey · 08/09/2019 22:24

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Of course all of the mighty have fallen in Forever, except for Uber and Bloodsucker, the others are just hanging on and sending their spouses out to work.

It's all going to get rather dramatic soon. Mortgage bot, while never a HUGE earner, was a cheque receiver and a substantial part of downline. They were important, they are the ones making money for their uplines.

Downlines need to progress through the ranks to make their uplines the big money. Castle found that out when she didn't have enough cheque earners to get her a level 2 cheque.

Not enough new bots is the obvious problem. Yawn and Mr Yawn did a 6 hour round trip for a business launch. Business launches appear to be on the rare side these days. Bots facebooks were full of their new victims launches, even meeting them for training is rare.

Getting your most eager bots to meet at your house still happens but it's always the same ones, no new blood.

It will be really interesting to see who has managed to qualify for Australia. Uber will have to buy her level 3cheque by paying to have her underlings receive cheques themselves. If that will even be possible this year. Am I right in thinking you need a certain amount of new business to receive a cheque? With not much of that to go round, will the ones who she needs to receive cheques be able to do so?

Castle won't get more than a level 1, if she gets that.

Whiterangey · 08/09/2019 22:32

@ReformedB0t You've taken it the wrong way, what she means is that every other person on the planet with a downline lies.

You can trust her, she doesn't, you can tell that by her lives.

She dyed her hair blue/black. It looks the same. With the blue black your hair just looks black apart from in certain light, sunlight mostly. Her hair is already dark so it doesn't really notice.

If she ever goes missing they won't need a photo, just look for someone wearing a Gucci belt that they bought years ago and wears all the time to try and make herself look successful.

She probably sleeps in it.

SaucySausageSandwiches · 08/09/2019 22:50

I don’t even think the belt is real.

Gotmychocolateimgood · 08/09/2019 23:05

That woman is obsessed with her bloody hair!

Bovneydazzlers · 09/09/2019 06:42

Castle bro's 'rising star' guy (who was there at the Miele hob incident..) has joined a fairly serious business networking club. God knows what all the actual entrepreneurs and real business owners (as opposed to non-salaried salesperson promoting overpriced goods) think of the inclusion of an MLM in their club.

Bluewavescrashing · 09/09/2019 07:11

Yes Bovneydazzlers I noticed that too. He obviously thinks he's got an actual business. 🤣

fromdownwest · 09/09/2019 08:45

We always have an MLM at our networking events, utility warehouse and FL are common. Everyone knows they are a joke, people humour them, to be polite, an occasional eye roll. They don’t last long, as this type of networking club, you ‘have’ to pass on business referrals each week. Obviously the MLM’s struggle and get found out quite quickly.

Jigsawpuzzle · 09/09/2019 08:52

Re rising star, he never misses an opportunity to product place.
When you put in his name on fb and other people come up there is a window cleaner (same name/area) but the page does not show his face, lots of van photos. Rising star did clean Castles windows recently. Coincidence?
A couple of other coincidences I have come across, someone’s lowly bot is fb friends with a niece.
A fb page I follow non MLM does show someone same name into JP
My JP bot is currently doing the gym routine followed by a red faced/out of breath live in the car. Her likes and comments always same people.Another one bites the dust methinks.

rattusrattus20 · 09/09/2019 11:35

Someone I vaguely know, does some Yoga teaching, I must say I'd had her down as a person of better than average integrity, has been posting a lot about attending seminars, the 'law of attraction', & so on. A pyramid type thing?

9dartfinish2nd · 09/09/2019 11:40

It may not neccessarily be an MLM @rattusrattus20

There are now swathes of motivational gurus who are doing these courses/seminars and whilst some do indeed target/prey on MLM participants they frankly will take anyone's money.

Whiterangey · 09/09/2019 11:50

PHD does have nice hair, which is the only nice thing I have to say about her.

I think the belt is real, just because the quality must be there to have been worn over and over and over again for so many years.

She bought it when she had money and to her it's a sign of success and if she wears it then it shows others that she is successful.

Like the other top FLP bots, she spent her money as soon as it hit her bank account with no thought that earnings can go down as well as up. They couldn't spend it fast enough knowing for sure they would get the same amount, or more, the next year.

I can't get over how stupid they have all been with their money. The directors loans that are so huge you could buy a house with them. Each year they have to earn more than their directors loan plus the tax on it just to break even. Have I got that right?

I googled and accountants seemed to think that huge directors loans are a bad idea.

Tax bill bots latest liquidators statement is on companies house and processing so will be available to view in a couple of days. She said she would pay back £500 a month plus give them £10k she was expecting to get as a bonus cheque. I wonder if she has kept up with the agreement.

Jigsawpuzzle · 09/09/2019 11:55

Yawn now pimping her high street buys. They don’t see the irony of being brainwashed previously into designer purchases.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 09/09/2019 15:07

Broke's homeless again.

ReformedB0t · 09/09/2019 15:32

PHD claimed she had about 80k in savings, I would hazard a guess that it's probably inheritance/trust fund than saved cash. The Audi she drove in Forever was hers before she even started Forever and was a student.

SaucySausageSandwiches · 09/09/2019 16:07

Yawn is working from her car? Grim. Maybe she could share with Broke.

leasedaudi · 09/09/2019 17:40

@Whiterangey Yawn has the same belt 😝 must be an aloe thing to like a bit of belt bling

leasedaudi · 09/09/2019 17:42

@ReformedB0t interesting you were the down line of PHD! Gosh what a mentor.

I looked at her online accounts and she had £86k cash at bank in December 2017. Her 2018 figures are due at the end of September so that will be interesting..

Norma27 · 09/09/2019 20:07

Yawn is showing a ‘plan’ of how to earn £1700 per month (altho the title says £2000).
Retailing 1cc per month (known as buying 1cc yourself)
Recruiting 2 assistant supervisors
3 a/s doing 15cc per month
1 assistant manager doing 45cc per month.

Yep. Not a pyramid scheme, and totally manageable as everyone is desperate to sign up to forever shite lately!

ReformedB0t · 09/09/2019 20:49

@leasedaudi
Yes I've spent quite some time close to her and been privy to her coaching and training. Even back then I knew she was rambly. My fiance used to comment how frustrating he would find the trainings if he was a bot when he overheard my webinars as 90% of it is made up of testimonials and "work on your mindset" yada yada with no actual training.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 09/09/2019 21:44

Broke's deleted his post asking if there's any landlords in his FB groups willing to house him. Don't suppose it was particularly good attraction marketing to advertise that he was out on his ear (yet again)...

rosesandcashmere · 09/09/2019 21:53

Arbonne had some sort of bash at the weekend. Not sure how I know so many of them but it all looked rather glamorous. I reject all their advances 🙄

Jigsawpuzzle · 09/09/2019 22:24

The bot that Yawn did a 6hr trip for did a like and his fb page has them showing off 2016 cheque. His fiancé is in the beauty bizniz , no surprises there. Not many responses to his FL blurb.

Whiterangey · 09/09/2019 22:29

@ReformedB0t Did you get to see the Gucci belt in real life?

If you did, was it your best day ever? Do you desperately want a Gucci belt of your own one day?

It's easy to become an assistant supervisor, you just need to purchase 2cc's of products yourself.

It's on the first steps to manager handout, on page 8.

s3.foreverliving.com/a1Jd000000BIu2pEAD%2F1459457188117First_Steps_to_Manager_ENG.pdf

"Be your own best customer"

I've read the whole thing 26 times and I cannot find the bit that says "Buy and wear a Gucci belt". Bit weird, it MUST be on there.