Bot Watch 50 - watching the mighty fall.

[Whiterangey]

Its forever living's global rally. Watching the top bots collect greatly reduced cheques.

Remember to always check companies house to check if someone in your upline is really earning what they say.

I love that photo Whiterangey!

Hey fables let us know if nurse replies ( finally found her!) got a feeling she ain't gonna listen to reason. Sad thing is if she only got into it to take her little one to a theme park, the money she spent on flp would of been enough money to do that! 😁

It will be interesting to see if curiosity gets the better if her and she does look at these threads.
If so, please open your eyes and recognise your uplines for the vile scumbags they are. Do you really aspire to be one of them?
Get out before you lose any more money, friends and self respect. You will get support on here, and I am sure your real friends will be so relieved and will be there for you.

Right now nurse's head will be full of hope, imagining reaching next year's rally.

It'll probably take more than a year of disappointments before she sees things in a different light.

Looking at uk country manager page.

The guy who got diamond manager (did he get a cheque?!) who got 'recognised' for his achievement (not a cheque) on stage. That's an awkward video. He's just filming himself on his mobile the whole time while he's up. Possibly inappropriate even in the FL world.

Also, bloodsuckers husband, where is he? He's usually there too. I've not seen him for a while.

Unbelievable pyramid behaviour this year, changing the cheque calculation to protect the old guard. Disgusting.

So yawn has qualified already, she's just announced. That's a way to keep in the lowly managers with ccs (not necessarily bonuses) all year, dangling a trip to Australia next year if they stick at it, even if you've done it for two years without a cheque. If you extend your trip by a week do FL still pay for flights?! Having to spend 3/4 days of the trip whooping in a noisy dark venue watching others get cheques, that cannot be fun though.

FL global page announcing that the top cheque for the German guy is biggest in FL history, showing how business is booming and all that hard work.

No - it's because they've robbed the pots of the level 1 guys of their bonus pots.

What a pyramid.

Hi, I’ve lurked here for a long time, ex FLP 👋🏻. I didn’t get far, I was only in it for a year or so in part of Yawn’s downline.

I’ve been pleased to see that you have stepped away from personal comments but seeing that someone has directed nurse here I wanted to delurk to comment. When I was botted I did come across this thread and I guess once I had got out it helped me see it would never have worked (which I knew anyway really). But when you’re in the position of trying really hard to do something it’s not very nice reading comments from people who are gleeful at the downfall of the business you are trying to achieve. For me (and nurse) I was just desperately trying to make more money for my family. Yes, I went down the wrong route, but with the best intentions.

The point I’m trying to make is that if a bot comes on here and sees that people have been making fun of them and the people they work with, do you really think they are going to decide to come and be ‘friends’?

I think shutting down MLMs would be fantastic but I felt I needed to put my point across.

Are we going to see an influx of business coaches, or are they going to go into the Tanz/Nailz/Eybrowz/Hairz/Muaz route.A distant family member has already done this.
Looking at my local villages & towns they are already saturated.

Fair point mags. It's helpful to hear a viewpoint from someone who had been involved. What would be the best approach, in your experience?

@Bovneydazzlers - indeed, more smoke & mirrors from FLP.

Another 'fact' that the UK bots are putting out there is that the UK moving up the league table is proof that FLP is on the rise in the UK.

Errr, no it doesn't. It means other countries are declining more rapidly.

The vastly reduced number of UK cheques, and the drop in the value of the cheques for all but the top dogs compared to last year (which itself was a complete massacre for UK bots) clearly show that all is not well in the kingdom.

Perhaps a more authoritative measure will be the turnover figure for 2018, which will appear in the company accounts, due on 30 September.

The figures for the previous three years would make uncomfortable reading for any CEO:

2015: £106 million
2016: £80 million
2017: £42 million
2018: £ ?

In the space of two years, FLP's business in the UK more than halved.

These are the figures anyone involved, or thinking about getting involved with FLP should consider, rather than those plastered on tacky oversized cheques.

I expect most current bots would prefer to continue to be dazzled by hope, rather than sobered by reality, but I would urge them to have a look at the next set of accounts before deciding whether FLP is on the rise in the UK.

If it isn't, why are you being lied to?

Castle BFF is pictured on mlm lies exposed comparing her 107k 2017 cheque with her 2019 13k one. Quite satisfying seeing the photos side by side.

@Magstermay I think that you do have a point but to be fair, most of the piss taking is aimed at the bots who know full well they are basically conning people out of money to keep their empire going.

Welcome mags. Thanks for posting.

The reason I am gleeful at seeing the bots fail is that they have caused misery for others by lying to them about how much they can earn. Some families have been really hard up as a result of bots sacking the boss. I imagine the stress of not being able to pay the bills after chasing the mlm dream is horrible for all involved. So when the mighty fall, there is an element of glee for me because they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

What made you decide to leave Forever? Can I ask how much you earned? I hope you are OK, leaving must have been difficult.

Trouble is, your average FBO won't understand company accounts. They don't get training in this! They won't want to burst their own bubble either.

I tried watching the rally. I was cringing.

It's like watching one of those Evangelist Christian seminars in the US where the church is a massive glitzy arena.

Nurse blocked me. No reply at all. Never mind.

Wow, just digesting the weekend posts on here.

Holy fuck Castle couldn't get off the stage any quicker could she? I now fully anticipate a change of MLM coming as there's no way in hell she'll go back to regular employment.

As for Bloodsucker and Uber, they have got out of jail big time. Although Uber still has the whopping directors loan to deal with.

There will have been claws out as soon as it became clear they were propped up at the expense of those below. A potentially disastrous move by FLP.

Yawn, Don't think the penny will ever drop with her and I wonder what the hell her husband must think of this life they are leading.

@Fables1003 they've been told to block 'negative' people. This enables them to keep this myth going for years. It's the emporer's new clothes.

Yes I didn't expect much, but I had to give it a go. Maybe when things start taking a bad turn she will go back to my comment and click the link.

It's not your job to save anyone. This woman will be getting bullied daily by those in her up line hassling her to see what she's been doing every day. If that doesn't make her see it's wrong....

Sometimes I'm happy that I'm autistic because I'm therefore immune to peer pressure and I look at the facts.

It just shows how deluded and brainwashed Nurse is, she's been in FL for nearly a year now and still not made that £300 she originally wanted to take her son to a theme park, now her head is full of the big money cheques after watching the global rally, Nurse was so dazzled by it all that she can't see that she hasn't even come close to making £300 let alone making £43,000.

When I was in FL I started the year of the 2016 massive cheques. My closest manager in my upline and her upline both qualified for tube cheques.

They are STILL peddling that crap but haven't qualified for anything since. One I believe paid for a trip and made out she qualified. Dubai if I remember correctly.

Her husband earns a fortune and she definitely tries to make it look like FL is behind their lavish lifestyle.

I met up with a company manager last week in my own line of business to talk about changes he needs to make to his website. I got in the car after the meeting and burst out laughing at the horrendous 'biz meetings' in pubs FL used to insist on where we all had to pose for photos.

Can you imagine me whipping out my phone with this guy and asking for a selfie. I'd have lost my chances of the contract in seconds!

Luckily... they gave me the contract and I've not had to announce it anywhere on social media to prove my success.

"Can't wait to work with this guy! Thanks so much for being a customer. Your website is going to change lives with this #bossbabe on the case"

Shudder.

@Fables103 I messaged her months ago. She replied with load of phrases she’d clearly been taught, ie I was a sad person for stalking her, I must have been a failure in an MLM, why was I being so negative about her trying to build a business to give her little boy a nice life etc etc
Then she blocked me

Nurse might be being bullied by her upline but we all saw how Nurse was hounding that woman on Ubers f/b page to join her team, so she's just as bad in my opinion.

Remember PHD - she was making huge income claims and saying she was successful right up to the time she left.

Then she was selling flight tickets for Stockholm, so clearly self-funded. Which was it - huge successful business or all bullshit?

Mind you somewhat contradictory after a couple of years posting about her amazing biz, living the best life ever and now posting about her struggles with self-doubt and crippling anxiety.

Maybe some essential oils will help ground her but they won’t make her rich.