MLM Bot Watch 38 - Large cheques are not forever

[Whiterangey]

I think the members of the Anti-MLM Coalition in the UK deserves to be recognised for the reduced cheques that have been received by the Forever Living bots in the UK.

They have worked tirelessly to spread the Anti-MLM message which seemed like a pointless battle when they started.

Yet here we are, the message is getting out there, and people are beginning to get the message.

People are listening. Ex-bots are telling their stories and encouraging others to leave or not to join MLM's.

You are all awesome and have worked so hard, you deserve so much respect for helping so many people.

A friends wife is in No 1 Scottish Bot's (YogaBot) downline. She's been plodding away at it for a few years now. I'm just waiting on the endless post of yoga bot's much smaller cheque this year. I think it was $11k but I'm sure last year was nearer 25/30k. Quite a drop.

I've been away from these threads for a bit and am not up on some of the names. Anyone be kind enough to pm them?

Anyway, my mind drifted away at work this morning, I was thinking of a create your bot name game thing! You know, like the ones on fb, first letter of your first name gives you "sizzle" and the first letter of your second gives you "training" ? Could send it viral over Facebook Huns!

I think they will be. I would have been if people here hadn't mentioned how cheque qualifying works and that if you don't do a bit of it you get no cheque.

I am certain that some of them will be over the moon that her cheque will be at least $300k as that is where they left off yesterday.

If it hadn't been for what was said here I would definitely have been one of them. It just didn't occur to me she wouldn't get a cheque, not even for a second. Given she has spent all her time telling her downline how well she is doing and how much you can make and they actually believe her i'm hoping they will get a taste of reality tonight when she doesn't appear.

With Uber & Bloodsucker (top bots) still to come, I did a quick back of an envelope calculation of what has happened to the rest of the senior UK bots' bonuses.

Excluding the two above, in 2017, there were 33 who received cheques over $15k, with an overall take among them of roughly $2.62 million.

Yesterday, the nine UK bots to achieve over $15k netted just under $0.5 million between them.

Those netting under $15k on Thursday were fewer than in 2017, and also posted drops (often from the higher level).

The senior bots have therefore seen their collective bonuses reduced by at least 80%. As this (indirectly) reflects turnover and recruitment in the UK, it gives a good idea of how catastrophic last year was, not just for chequebots, but for FLP Uk.

Any company losing four-fifths of its revenue in a year is doomed, unless it drastically changes its business model. FLP cannot do that, as its raison d'être is the "business model", not the product.

Castle's bestie ( down from $107k to $22k) is thinking ahead to the next 40 years of growth for FL . Yeah right. Dream on hun.

She's also putting the recruitment feelers out but she'll only be working with 3 people so you'd better be quick, you don't want to miss out.

That's why they're starting to focus on other countries. Sadly - for those involved - I think that they'll have to keep the UK side 'ticking over' to lend credibility to their operation.

What time do tonight's shenanigans start?

Forever Living Products UK Ltd are not doing so well, as they say themselves on their Companies House page, which is easy to search for via google.

In 2016 New business owners decreased by 52%.

2015 was the boom year as evidenced by the massive cheques in 2016. The decrease in 2016 is evidenced by the not so big cheques last year.

I imagine the next accounts when published in October which will show 2017 are going to be even worse.

Given what has happened to Yawn and her no cheque the 52% drop in new business owners is harming the top bots.

Which is fantastic news that less and less people are getting involved with this shit.

While it was all fun and games getting the cheques in 2016 it has harmed them in the long term. Bringing so many people into the business at once gave a short term gain. However, that many extra people would mean those at the bottom receiving even less money than usual and I imagine their time with the company was extremely short. Now they are gone as potential FL bots forever so harms them long term.

@whiterangey
In the last thread I posted up that I had heard rumours that Yawn wouldn’t be getting a cheque, so from this I guess quite a lot of people were aware of this.

Rumours were also circulating after her treasured Range disappeared as that was her prized possession along with her house. Questions were being asked as to why she would choose to get rid of her Range that she would talk to all and sundry about and downsize- didn’t make sense, but it sure does now!!

She is in freefall;
No longer part of the FL leadership team
Lost managers
Has to resort to cattle class
Can’t upgrade hotel room
Did she buy any of the clothes on the bed as she didn’t qualify for an uploaded credit card?

With her skill set, she needs to either get a proper job, start a proper business not linked to MLM otherwise she runs the risk of jumping into another MLM....

Can someone tell me who yawnbot is? i know who Lanzabot is. A friend was sucked in by her and was doing FL but that seems to have stopped now thankfully!

A bit of spending money on a card is not quite the same as £££k cheque tho. No matter how many pairs of trainers you can buy to put in an ugly yellow case!

What amount did yawn get last year? I’m trying to work out who she is!

This here is why they can get away with it to some extent @Fence80786

I read everything on here, I will have read your post and dismissed it as wrong, the rumours were wrong, she is getting her cheque, no doubt about it, the way she talks of course she is getting a cheque 100%.

In this situation you were the negferret and I knew better based on what i'd been told by Yawn, even though I don't actually believe half the shit she comes out with.

Despite my username I know nothing about cars. Was her Rangey paid for? I just assumed her new car was an upgrade and the Rangey was leased.

I'd guessed things were going to shit for her, but I had not idea she'd had to sell her car, i'm guessing for the mortgage payments on her house.

I think her mortgage is very high, based on all of this she will most certainly be downsizing this year. Unfortunately she has wrecked the house with her interior decorating. Wallpaper on some gorgeous stairs which have ruined them, and other crimes against good taste.

She totally conned me into believing she was doing better than she is. It is so easy to get blindsided by bots, which is why I hate MLM's as they recruit based on lies.

Last year Yawn got $55k

Just had a thought, a couple of weeks ago Yawn spring cleaned her whole house and rearranged a couple of things.

Could this have been ready for estate agent photos?

I have been looking but her house isn't listed for sale, yet. How long does it take from photos to listing if that is what is happening?

I think she may have signed up her estate agent to be in her downline.

If I was roomie bot, I’d definitely be upgrading for the flight home

The livestream for the rally has started. Not the rally proper, the camera is just showing all the whooping, cheering, and flag waving at the moment.

It will be interesting to see if this years rally makes downline see what a scam it all is. I feel so sorry for those at the bottom but I hope they see sense and cut their losses.
Those top bots I hope they lose everything just like those below them before which they couldn’t give a toss about as long as they were making money.
I fear bloodsucking bot is still making money by exploiting Africa. Despicable lady for whom karma or hell must surely pay a visit one day.

Where is the live stream please?

It is on the forever living website.

TY Norma

I’ll warn you it is very weird, boring and cultish! Compulsive viewing once you start tho!

Wow a lot of these people DO NOT do the C9!!

Or they do the c9 and it just doesn’t bloody work!