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insomnia, please tell me what else I can try

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lovelygirl17 · 06/02/2022 03:36

I've been struggling with sleep for more than I decade. First few years it was the kids that kept me awake every night. Eventually they started to sleep through the night and I couldn't wait. Just to discover that I didn't have the ability to sleep any more. This was about 5 years ago. I was riddled with anxiety and the worst of my demons came out at night. I never have trouble falling asleep, I'm knackered every night. But I started to wake 2am most nights no matter what, feeling anxious and wired and ready to start the day. Sometimes I managed to go back to sleep around 5 am, sometime I didn't. I used to blame my stressful job but I'm not sure anymore. I was prescribed antidepressants for my anxiety. Citalopram made me so sleepy, unfortunately mostly during the day that I struggled even more at work. I switched to Flouxetine (it has helped in the past) but this time it just didn't do anything anymore. Over the years I tried, magnesium, melatonin, new pillow, new duvet, weighted blanket, vitamin B, mindfulness, yoga, regular reflexology, acupuncture ,not looking at screens, having a regular bedtime, getting some exercise and some gave some relief but always short term only. For the last two years things have deteriorated, I'm hot and sweaty at night then I'm freezing cold and wide awake of course, I was still anxious and made me miserable during the day. The kids started to suffer, my husband and my work too. Most days I feel I'm unable to function. I went to GP suggesting it might be perimenopause. It has taken me several appointment over the course of two years to get hrt prescribed. My sleep was deteriorating fast at this time, 2 days before I started the patches, I was awake from midnight, banging my head on the wall and wanting to die. Then I put my first oestrogen patch on and I had the two most wonderful nights of the decade. I was so happy! From day 3 the situation however deteriorated and when I put the conti patch on, it went awful, I wasn't anxious anymore but deeply depressed. Still woke up after an hour sleep each night, sobbing my heart out and this didn't stop in the morning, it carried on during the day. I couldn't sleep or nap during the day either but on rare occasions, like once every 10 days I would get an ok day to keep me going, the rest is awful. Trying to get into touch with GP but it's almost impossible. Despite telling them that I lost my willingness to live, I haven't managed to speak to anyone for the last 3 weeks. Last night I was so bad that I decided to walk to a&e in the middle of the night, I was wide awake all night and couldn't stop crying. They gave me sleeping pills (Zopiclone 3.75) to break the cycle. They said I had to be careful because they were very potent. Now, I hate to say but I've taken one and it had no effect. Went to bed at 10:30pm, fell asleep, woke at midnight and sitting up ever since, wide awake. I'm going insane. So anybody, has any suggestions or just sympathy then please share. It's affecting everybody in my family now, I feel that I'm only upsetting them and there is zero happiness left.

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Freshprincess · 14/02/2022 19:29

To be honest, one of the reasons I stopped taking it was the weight gain. Vain , I know, but I didn’t like it. After so many years of 3/4 hour nights I felt amazing. I was nervous to come off it, as you know the lack of sleep is debilitating. I kept a couple of boxes just in case.

I did some research, watched the davina documentary and followed some threads and realised that I needed the oestrogen for my bones and my heart.

It’s such a personal decision, read around and maybe talk to your GP.

Starwarsfan53 · 22/02/2022 09:14

Hi there, have you tried good quality CBD oil? I stress it really needs to be the good stuff which can be quite expensive but I found this a life saver for anxiety and sleep. It’s completely THC free and natural. Works well with HRT too. The one I use was recommended by Readers Digest.

vivainsomnia · 22/02/2022 15:19

Antidepressants have sorted my sleep after 5 years of dreadful insomnia.

SSRI rather than the older type so I have no side effects, and none of the weight gain associated with the older ones. It took 2 months and the first 4 weeks were tough but so worth it.

lovelygirl17 · 22/02/2022 17:41

CBD oil is one of the very few things I haven't tried yet. I tried Flouxetine (long time ago before I became an insomniac), it was great, it dealt with my anxiety very well and perked up my brain a lot. I tried it again a few years ago and didn't do anything anymore. I'm now on Mirtazapine 15mg. First night was awful, totally sedated and not refreshed at all after spending 11 hours in bed. I cried all morning. I still felt numbness after 24 hours, then I tried half, similar effect, then quarter. Quarter seems to be ok, I've had 3 nights of good sleep so far but I'm too scared to say this is it, it definitely increased my appetite and I don't need any extra weight.

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Sharonz · 23/02/2022 16:42

Since you didn't need or use an AD before this, has your doctor given you any idea how long you'll be on it? I saw a physician talking about Menopause who said some women will need both HRT and an antidepressant for years (like 5-10) and some will for the rest of their lives.

soberfabulous · 24/02/2022 15:42

@JS87

600mg n acetyl cysteine before bed solved my insomnia which id had for four months. It might not work for you but it helps switch from glutamate to gaba production in the brain which is needed for sleep.
Hello hello. I've been taking this for the last two weeks and jo difference so far. Could I ask how long before it helped your sleep?
Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 24/02/2022 15:47

Low dose of amitriptyline (20mg) 2 hours before bedtime works for me.

SalsaLove · 24/02/2022 15:52

I would also recommend amitriptiline as other pp have suggested. My mother and grandmother both took it for insomnia back when it was called something else. It’s been around forever.

ingeborg3 · 19/03/2022 21:17

I am sorry! I also suffered from it, and I take now three magnesium glycinate (pure encapsulations) from Amazon right before bed, and I can sleep. If I wake up too early (rarely), I take another one. It is better for me than medication. According to my doctor, most of us don't have enough magnesium in our diet. She recommended it.

soberfabulous · 20/03/2022 16:48

@lovelygirl17

CBD oil is one of the very few things I haven't tried yet. I tried Flouxetine (long time ago before I became an insomniac), it was great, it dealt with my anxiety very well and perked up my brain a lot. I tried it again a few years ago and didn't do anything anymore. I'm now on Mirtazapine 15mg. First night was awful, totally sedated and not refreshed at all after spending 11 hours in bed. I cried all morning. I still felt numbness after 24 hours, then I tried half, similar effect, then quarter. Quarter seems to be ok, I've had 3 nights of good sleep so far but I'm too scared to say this is it, it definitely increased my appetite and I don't need any extra weight.
Oh my goodness in desperation I tried a quarter of a 15mg tablet last weekend: I slept like the dead which was amazing but the next day was awful. I've never felt anything like it.

Lord knows how you felt after 30mg.

I'm now about to try the Kirkland recommended here. It's basically an antihistamine of which I've tried many over the years, but not this active ingredient: let's see...

soberfabulous · 20/03/2022 16:50

@Starwarsfan53

Hi there, have you tried good quality CBD oil? I stress it really needs to be the good stuff which can be quite expensive but I found this a life saver for anxiety and sleep. It’s completely THC free and natural. Works well with HRT too. The one I use was recommended by Readers Digest.
Could you please share the brand name?
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