Can the menopause start with a Mirena coil in?

[mummytowillow]

I've been thinking about some symptoms I'm having and wondered if it might be the menopause.

I'm 44 in July, had several rounds of IVF and when I was 38, was told I had diminished ovarian reserve. Luckily I have a daughter

I've had the Mirena coil for three years, and I'm having it taken out next Friday. I've been experiencing the following symptoms:

Flushes, irritability to the point of anger, greasy skin but feels dry, itchy downstairs, weight gain and a complete lack of interest in doing anything. I also get the overwhelming tiredness around 4 ish and I could just lay down and sleep.

I'm usually very houseproud, but I have no interest in doing anything other than eat chocolate and watch TV.

Could this be the menopause, my mum said she was about 48 when she had hers. Can the doctor do a blood test to let me know?

Thanks

I believe so although I was told that if I then needed HRT I wouldn't need such a strong prescription.

GP suggested Mirena for menstrual migraines, as it could be in for ten years she said it would take me through the menopause and less likely to need other meds. I declined so don't know if she was right.

Your history is not too dissimilar from mine so I'd be interested in replies from any others who've experienced Mirena and Menopause.

I had multiple IVF rounds as well. I have two dds. Had mirena put in about 2 yrs ago as very heavy periods (now have no bleeding at all). I m 50 this year and am definitely getting menopausal symptoms: night sweats, tiredness during day which may be through not sleeping; anger and feeling down. I was thinking of HRT as alternative tablets don t seem to have worked.

The Mirena has no bearing on when you go into peri menopause. Menopause happens when you run out of eggs and your oestrogen levels fall. The Mirena puts progesterone into the uterus to prevent conception. Some women who have a mirena find it hard to know if they are menopausal because the mirena usually stops periods altogether.

If you have had the coil for 3 years then it's unlikely to be side effects of the coil- because your symptoms do sound a bit PMT-ish! Best I'd say to see how you feel once it's out then ask for a blood test.

I'm 45. Had a Mirena coil fitted two years ago for heavy periods. I've had symptoms of the menopause since last summer and my GP put me on HRT a couple of months ago. Feeling much better, but the weight gain has been massive. Not helped I'm sure by going on HRT coinciding with Creme Eggs being in the shops.

BD- if you still have the Mirena in, you only need oestrogen as HRT. Such as a patch or gel. Is this what you have? If not then you are getting double the progestrone does with having a Mirena which may account for weight gain.

I've had Mirenas for 15 years and been peri menopausal for 3 years. My coil has been in 7 years now but I'm leaving it until periods finish.

Hi ive had marina coil in for over 1year due to heavy periods i have been steralised as i have 3 children but having hot flushes going toilet more than usual and hungry all the time im convinsed im on early menapause im 43

Hi, I have been using the marina since 2006' with one change. I am now 49 and had some blood results for my fish levels. This cam back at 85.5 and my consultant has said I am post menopause. Not really suffered any flushes just thought I was hot at work. Will I need the coil out now or scan it be kept in.
Thank you

Sorry bloody I pad put fish it should be FSH.

It depends is the answer.
If you had it for contraception then you need to go 1 full year without a period ( some drs insist on 2 years if you are under 50) before you can be sure you will not conceive. A single blood test is not reliable. I had 1 that said I was post meno then went on to have periods for 2 more years.

You either need more blood tests OR remove the Mirena and see if you have periods.

I've had Morita insert 13 mths ago , still have periods , for up to 2 to 3 weeks , past three mths I have suffered all menapause symptoms including mood swings to d stage I can't control it , my gp says ho r mines are fine , have high colestrol and low good colestrol which may indicate menopause , she wouldn't help me with hrt etc so I got promeseil double strength my sysptoms sun's idea a great deal , I've lost interest in everything past 3 mths little tolerance so my gp says nope I say take care of myself , yes I do believe the mirenia coil has put me into menopausal stage most diffo , I'm 48 karen murphy

Karen- this is a zombie thread- maybe start a new thread because sounds as if your GP is hopeless and you could do with some help.

I'm 24 and been diagnosed with early menopause

You need to start your own thread if it's on a different topic instead of adding your post to one about the Mirena coil because your post has got 'lost'.

Try the Daisy network- charity for women with prem meno.

www.daisynetwork.org.uk

Hi i had the mirena coil fitted 3 years ago due to heavy painful periods, i had another one in previously for 5 years for the same reason.

Ive not been feeling myself at all really. I dont think its my coil. After talking with a friend about how ive been she suggested the early menopause. My moods are so up and down, happy one day and sad the next, i dont sleep well, my mouth is dry alot and my lips are cracking. When i get hot (and i do mean hot) its my legs that drip with sweat. I have no interest in sex at all and i am constantly tired. I can fall asleep when i get in from work but canr sleep when i actually go to bed.
Ive nothing to be stressed about, my job is good, i have a lovely wonderful husband whos extremely supportive a fantastic family and a great life.
At first i thought it was depression as ive suffered with that in the past but now im not sure.
So is it possible that it could be the early menopause? Im only 38
Sorry for rambling guys but thank you for reading. Xx

Oh, and i also get so irritable its unreal, thats when i keep away from people as i can snap at the slightest thing.

Hi, I've been a bit worried as I've had mirena coil in for 5.5 years and have just had blood test to say I've gone through menopause although my last period was 7 months ago I'm 50. Since I've been told I've been spotting for a couple of weeks. Made the mistake of looking on line 😱 Has anyone had this issue, thanks 😁

You aren't post meno until you have had 12 months with no period. So you've not gone through it yet. Blood tests are not reliable in peri (and GPs have been told by NICE not to do them, for this reason.)

Also, the coil will have run out now. I'ts shelf life is 5 years for birth control and 4 years as part of HRT. (So if you don't want to be pregnant it's best to have it changed!)

Thanks for the reply. The doctor said it works as a contraception for 7 years now apparently if it has been put in before your 45 ?? I'm due to have it removed later this year. Thanks again... extra precaution for the next few months I think

Im 45... im on my third coil. I sometimes can't sleep all night. Get so hot during the night. I could bite your head off and then cry. Im tired a lot!! I can go off sex but it doesn't stop me wanting it. Im so fed up double guessing what's wrong with me. Doesn't help my best friend is 30... oh for the freedom of youth

Hi Mummytowillow

The drop in oestrogen levels that usually heralds the start of perimenopause can start in early 40s - it's usually most noticeable around 47/48 but every woman is different. If your coil is progesterone only, then the imbalance between the two types of hormone is likely to be more pronounced which can cause symptoms. I had similar issues - especially the 4 oclock slump complete with packs of Eccles cakes and I went to a kinesiologist (who I still see regularly). She helped me get my diet in order so my adrenal glands were not so exhausted and my gut wasn't so dependent on sugar (there were multiple other gut issues that resolved with diet and herbs). My personal journey has been one of learning to support my body - the menopause alone isn't necessarily going to 'make' things like this happen but what I notice is, that if there is already an imbalance (say adrenals are exhausted: or digestion isn't working properly)then the changes that come with menopause can be much more impactful. Has sweating or joint aches been a problem? I have a 30 day plan that may help, I'd be happy to share.

There is some odd behaviour on this forum tonight; one-off responses to zombie threads 6 and 4 years old. I know it's a meno forum; is there a full moon today too? :)

Hi I'm 39 I have a marina coil fitted for the past yr and half this is my second coil fitted for contraceptive purpose. For the past year my menstrual cycle has changed from normal regular period every month even with the coil fitted my periods never stopped. To my cycle of 5 days changing to 6-8 days which consists of either 4/6 days of spotting and two days of heavy period since October 12 months ago. I am experiencing what feels like sudden hot feelings a couple of night sweats iv been to my gp twice and my results are coming back negative for menopauseal. I seem to only get any where from 15-20 days between bleeds what could be happening I'm frustrated my mam was 41 when she had historectomy and my older sister was 38 am I following the same route. Is my coil hiding or giving false fsh reading because it contains hormone in the coil.

The short answer is yes, the FSH test could be accurate because the Mirena doesn't always prevent ovulation, so the reading could be right. The other thing is most women follow the same pattern as their mums for age of menopause. if this is the case, you need to start HRT. You will only need estrogen because the Mirena counts as the progestogen part, to protect your womb lining.