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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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JumpingIntoLCHF · 09/10/2017 12:42

Ok I think I need to do this. Pls can someone add me to the spreadsheet? I hardly dare admit it but I weigh 254 lb right now.

swlondonnanny · 09/10/2017 12:46

Hello everyone
Brand new boot camp Smile
I have been lowcarbing since mid March and lost 70lbs since then (30 on last bootcamp but 'only' 5 since the last bootcamp finished in July).
As I have another 60lbs to lose (to be in healthy BMI) I need to get very strict again. Ideally I would lose 20lbs in this bootcamp which would take me into 'just' overweight BMI...
Good luck to all of us

Escapepeas · 09/10/2017 12:46

I'm struggling a bit with snack ideas. I was eating a handful of macademias previously but that's now off limits.

TalkinBoutWhat · 09/10/2017 12:48

Hi BIWI! Just signing in. I haven't fully read the thread, just looked mainly at your posts, will have a proper read later tonight. Promise no questions until I have a proper read!

But I've weighed in, eaten my scrambled eggs for breakfast, downed several cups of tea (black, so no need to limit!! yay!!). Making myself a tuna and egg salad now. Sheesh, can't believe the red peppers are so high in carbs compared to the green ones. A very boring green salad but hey ho! I'm sure I can sneak some colour in in a few weeks.

Taken note of how much water I'm supposed to drink. Nearly 3 1/2 litres... yikes!!!

I'm really looking forward to this, thank you so much for running these boot camps.

prettybird · 09/10/2017 12:52

Fishfingerpie - personally I don't like any of the "fruit flavoured" teas (although some of them are ok cold). But I do like "peppermint and liquorice" (which actually tastes very sweet), various of the ginger teas (eg gingerbread tea but there are other combinations). I think there is an "apple and cinnamon" one which is quite nice but then I love cinnamon The Salted Caramel one is ok - but if I'm wanting sweetness, the peppermint & liquorice will satisfy me.

Rooibos (red bush) is also nice - but there again, I'm South African born Wink

FinallyHere · 09/10/2017 12:54

78Ash Thank you Thank you Grin

Hope you manage to stop the cold in its tracks.

Escapepeas · 09/10/2017 12:55

Please can someone critique my lunch so I can check I'm on track?

M&S prawns with cocktail sauce (didn't eat the sauce)
Itsu poached salmon with egg
M&S full fat Greek yogurt
Two small pieces of cheddar

HarlotsWeb · 09/10/2017 12:56

Roast turkey with lovely skin for lunch (with celery salad), and I have some Total yoghurt for an afternoon snack. Hope I have bought the right sort!

And welcome welcome welcome to everyone appearing. Looking forward to shrinking with you all.

FishFingerPie · 09/10/2017 12:59

Thanks prettybird, I'll persevere and try some different ones.

poorbuthappy · 09/10/2017 13:00

I am on the spreadsheet - first challenge is to get out of the 11s and into 10s.

I've been doing it for 6 ish weeks with support from this lot and i have lost 10lbs!
Am due on this week though and last months was horrendous...am hoping my system has settled down a bit.
Specifically signed up for BC to kick the wine in the week habit...

B - greek yoghurt
L - celeriac dauphinoise with extra cauliflower and some chicken (leftovers from yesterday)
D - salad

A definite tip for me is to have leftovers for lunch.

Best of luck everyone!

newbebe · 09/10/2017 13:00

Hi
I am starting 170lbs
Breakfast yogurt with some blueberries
Lunch chicken soup, 2 boiled eggs
Tea chicken stew, green veg

Stowie3012 · 09/10/2017 13:02

Hi everyone. Really looking forward just feeling more comfortable. I feel so round at the minute!
I know we are not supposed to have fruit but I normally have a jug of water in the fridge with lemon/lime/cucumber in. Is this allowed??
Hope everyone is having a good day!

ClearEyesFullHearts · 09/10/2017 13:16

stevie the thing that stands out to me is a lack of fat in your menu. It shouldn't be a little olive oil, it should be a lot. Veg should be cooked in butter or butter added. Chicken should have skin on. Salads should have mayonnaise or vinaigrette or a blue cheese dressing (1 cup mayo, 1 cup sour cream, 125g Stilton or blue cheese, heat until blue cheese 'schlumps' into the mix--heaven). Or whatever dressing you prefer that's high fat without many carbs.

A lot of people will be afraid of fat on LCHF but remember it's not low carb high protein, it's low carb high fat. The protein is necessary and lovely and keeps your energy up in a way that carbs don't, but the fat is really what is needed to stay full and avoid hunger. Our bodies need (good) fats.

singadream I'm fond of scratchings or Pork Crunch or hard boiled eggs for a snack. Also olives or the occasional babybel.

Last Bootcamp there was quite a trend for so-called "exploding babybels" which seemed to be cutting a babybel into 4 parts (?) then on a plate and into the microwave for a certain amount of time. Makes them crisper and more delicious apparently.

Hoping an Exploding Babybel veteran can come along with more precise instruction. Grin

Wishing huge success to you both.

NutButterNutter · 09/10/2017 13:20

Need to get on the scales - too many things to do this morning. About to have an eggy lunch now that time babe is asleep and have ordered a lot of meaty goodness for dinner. I love the every day is day 1 idea from the chat thread - I'm always good on day 1 and then slowly fall off the wagon, so maybe this will work 🎉

BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:26

@Escapepeas

M&S prawns with cocktail sauce (didn't eat the sauce)
Itsu poached salmon with egg
M&S full fat Greek yogurt
Two small pieces of cheddar

Whilst this is all admirably low carb, where are your vegetables? You are supposed to be making sure that you eat veg/salad as well - it's important to give you the right balance of nutrition, as well as fibre

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:27

@CremedeSudo (I've just worked out what your name is Grin)

RTFT means 'read the full thread'

Unless I'm cross, in which case it's 'read the fucking thread' Grin

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:29

@sheepysheep

Have you read Volek and Phinny's book, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance? With a phd in nutrition, you'll probably understand it a lot better than I did!

However, what I do remember from that is that all the work they've been doing with elite athletes indicates that you can undertake endurance events if you're fat-adapted. But I'd be really interested in your take on that.

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:30

@stevie69 that all looks fine to me except for the sardines which sound horrible but then I don't like them!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:31

@YoLoNovVitMe I'll see what I can find out re carbs for the other versions of cabbage! My carb counter books are at home so it will be later today though

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Titsywoo · 09/10/2017 13:31

Morning all. Weighed and measured this morning and have updated the spreadsheet. Just had a mushroom and cheese omelette for lunch. I don't do breakfast but will have another meal as well as dinner so I'm eating 3 times a day. Must remember to drink water. I tend to drink loads at the end of the day but forget in the morning and early afternoon as I'm busy working. Good luck all! I'm looking forward to pork belly, spinach, brocolli and cauli mash for dinner tonight :)

CremeDeSudo · 09/10/2017 13:32

Running joke in my partially French house Grin

Thank you all! I will ensure to RTFT always! It moves so fast!

I want to lose 2 stone, however we are about to start trying for baby 2.0 so might have to play that by ear a bit! Would love to lose half a stone 3lb+ in the first two wks. I was very carby before so hoping this might be possible!

BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:33

@Hefzi

Can anyone remind me what the carb/fat/protein percentages are for MFP? It's been shouting at me for having to much fat and not enough carbs since I started using it.

I don't use MFP, but there have been quite a few people over the years who've said that it's not very accurate - and it certainly doesn't like low carbing!

You really don't have to monitor your macros though if you're following Bootcamp rules.

However, I'm sure @StuntNun will be able to advise you. But overall, as long as you're very high fat, medium protein and very low carbs you should be fine.

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Escapepeas · 09/10/2017 13:34

@BIWI Thanks, I forgot to mention there was salad in with the fish, but it was no more than a side potion. Am assuming this is not enough?

BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:35

@mowglik

I used to drink coke zero when doing LC before as a way of getting that sweet hit but will try and avoid it this time round. Ive had a cup of pukka vanilla chai which is sweetened with herbs so should be ok??

Not really!

Whilst those are all perfect low carb drinks, remember that we're trying to break the hold that sweet things have over us. You really shouldn't be looking for a 'sweet hit'.

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 13:39

@singadream once you get into the swing of low carb things, you will find that you're not hungry between meals, so you won't need to snack.

People never believe me when I say that Grin

But once your blood sugar levels are more stable, so will your hormones be - the important ones are insulin, leptin and grehlin, and this holy trinity is actually what causes you to either feel hungry or satisfied. Once they're in balance, your appetite will be significantly reduced. Honest!

However, if you do find yourself hungry - olives make a good, low carb snack. But in general, if you find yourself getting hungry between meals then it's a sign that you're not eating enough at mealtimes, and in particular that you're not eating enough fat.

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