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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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Giraffeski · 14/10/2017 15:38

I did ok yesterday considering I went out with DH for the first time in ages.
B:2 scrambled eggs in butter with spinach
L: fish from fish and chip shop with no batter, low point but filled a hole.
D: out with DH- small sirloin steak absolutely covered In garlic butter, courgette fries (coated in egg and Parmesan and deep fried), a rocket and Parmesan salad, mushrooms, and a slice of halloumi.
Drank all my water, had one creamy coffee and a few cups of tea and coffee with almond milk.

I did have four gin and slimline tonics though, but - importantly- resisted when DH broke out the crisps later on when we were home. I had a couple of bits of cheese and some gherkins and olives instead.

Rshard · 14/10/2017 16:04

Glad to hear you’re feeling a bit better ragz

Awesome ilove

Been shopping today and chose well for lunch with a chicken chorizo and avocado salad, steered everyone away from Wagamama which is our default restaurant! Bought dd and dh an ice cream and resisted. Chose an americano rather than a cappuccino so pretty happy.

singadream · 14/10/2017 16:56

My difficult fil is here and I am struggling not to dull the pain with afternoon tea.

Escapepeas · 14/10/2017 17:00

Day 6

B - Mushroom omelette
L - nothing
D - BBQ!

I didn't have lunch because DH insisted on dragging me around a load of DIY shops but because the weather is decent we decided to have a last BBQ of the season, so I am doing the following:

Salmon with garlic and chillis
Diet Doctor courgette salad
Halloumi with a dip of soft cheese, cucumber, capers and mint

We are getting through eggs at a rate of knots. Am considering buying a flock of chickens. Grin

Thiswillbemyusername · 14/10/2017 17:10

I was walking back home from doing my food shopping today, thinking about how my appetite has changed since going low carb. Before when I was hungry, I'd feel ravenous and have to find something fast to satiate myself. Now that feeling's completely gone. It's like what a PP said: my stomach seems to have disappeared, or it no longer holds the same control over me as it used to.

Today's meals so far:

B: camembert and devilled eggs (yum) + creamy coffee
L: more camembert, twisted cheese strings and pork scratchings

(I know I've eaten too much cheese today. I'll know by tomorrow if that was a bad move)

D will be salmon and roast vegetables.

Veryflummoxed · 14/10/2017 17:11

Our day has not gone to plan so no food prep.
I had fried eggs, gammon and fried cabbage for lunch. Cabbage fried in coconut oil was very yum. (I don’t know why I have lost the ability to flip a fried egg lately) Everyone else is having chip shop takeaway later. I will have anything low carb I can find in the fridge. (Quite likely a repeat of lunch)

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
TimeIhadaNameChange · 14/10/2017 17:12

Escape - if you're anywhere near me oh can have some eggs free of charge. Currently have at least two dozen duck eggs in the house, and will get another 6 tomorrow morning. And every morning thereafter. There's also a pile of hen eggs somewhere in the garden...

Grimbles · 14/10/2017 17:18

Have any longer term low carbers found their sense of taste has changed?

Thiswillbemyusername · 14/10/2017 17:24

@Grimbles Yeah I really look forward to coffee with double cream in the morning. I used have sugar in my coffee, never thought I'd ever be without. When I look at confectionery now i don't feel like I want it, it all looks so processed and not like real, substantial food.

Thiswillbemyusername · 14/10/2017 17:24

@Grimbles oh you mean sense of taste..sorry Blush

CremeDeSudo · 14/10/2017 17:26

Quick question-can use soy sauce? I want to have a chicken stir fry tonight. Any recipe suggestions?

I also agree with the stomach thing. I'm usually so aware of my stomach and thinking about food/hunger and now it's like I'm about as aware of my stomach as I am my left leg! If that makes sense?! I love how quickly this has happened Smile

SoMuchToBits · 14/10/2017 17:26

Apologies for gatecrashing this thread! I did do Bootcamp last year, in the spring/early summer, but after losing a few pounds I completely stalled. I carried on with this WOE though for a few weeks, but then went on holiday, and sadly got back into a carb/crave cycle.

Just under a fortnight ago, I managed to get back on the low carb WOE, and have already lost 8lb. But this time, I decided from the off that I wasn't going to snack, just eat meals. I think last time I ended up eating too much food. I thought I was hungry between meals, but in hindsight, I think this may have been eating through boredom/habit. Now I'm back low carbing, I feel so much better! Less anxious, better skin, and my arthritic joints are thanking me.

But the reason I'm posting is because like prettybird I have been thinking about why so many people these days are overweight and struggling with it.

I'm of a similar age to prettybird, and I totally agree about portions being smaller in the 60s, and snacking being much less common. I also remember that high fat foods (such as full fat milk, butter, meat with fat on, dripping etc) were considered totally normal then.

The other thing which has changed, is that there has been a huge increase in the number and variety of processed food available. In the 60s there were tinned foods and factory-made cakes, biscuits etc, but convenience foods (especially ready meals) really took off in the 70s and 80s, alongside the advent of freezers and microwaves in our homes.

It's no wonder that people struggle with their weight when we are given bad advice about "low fat diets" and are at the same time bombarded with shelves and shelves of processed, sugary crap every time we shop, or go into a café.

I was walking round my local supermarket the other day, and two things struck me. One was that, if you discounted the shelves of non-food items (cleaning products, toiletries etc), I reckon less than 20% of items in the shop would be suitable for anyone on a LCHF WOE. The other, was that the "healthy eating/be good to yourself" etc options are all still the low fat, or reduced sugar/full of artificial sweeteners items. It's so frustrating!

Escapepeas · 14/10/2017 17:32

@TimeIhadaNameChange Have PM'd you. :)

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 14/10/2017 17:36

Filled up on a rack of ribs with salad. Did more than enough fluid as a multiple a day weigher was surprised with out -a solid-empty today am 3lb less pressure on the scale than yesterday. Snow on the ground to day dug out jeans brought last year when was 10lb heavier. And they don't do up. [Shock] . Wife did say they dentist thought I had cancer last year as I was so thin. Which made no sense as bmi wise I was obese. Have bones I guess. 🤣
Will try to get out on the bike again this week. Looking at a 220km wind assisted ride Tuesday. Picking up the Xmas beer. So has to be done snow or no snow.

ChinchillaFur · 14/10/2017 17:41

Wow, everyone's doing so well. KOKO!

I have survived a meal out. DD chose Wetherspoons so I got the 6oz beef burger with bacon & cheese, and swapped the chips for salad. I had a tiny bit of mayo as I don't really like it usually. I was quite proud of myself. DH had the same burger but ate his bun and chips. I was completely satisfied and I actually commented half way through "Can you believe this is diet food!" Grin

Also did a massive supermarket shop. Managed to get celeriac, cauliflower, asparagus, baby corn, mayo (!) and cream cheese.

I've decided to make a LCHF lasagne tomorrow. Found a recipe that uses courgette sliced thinly and the white sauce is made with ricotta. Bought 20% fat mince - hope that's right. I will endeavour to post a photo if it turns out ok. Lasagne is my favourite food so I really hope so Smile

CarbyDiem · 14/10/2017 17:43

Been at a conference all day. Won't be home till 9 and I know there's bugger all to eat at home.

RubyGoat · 14/10/2017 17:51

Ragz Flowers
That's interesting about changing attitudes to food, Prettybird. And depressing. I wonder what actually caused the change, and is it fixable, or was it like a floodgate.

So I've not had the best day. Woke up with migraine (normal for me, sadly). Stayed in bed for a while then got up just before midday. Not hungry (probably due to migraine / lie-in?) Lost track of time a bit, had a decent amount to drink, had a nap, still not hungry. Went to supermarket with DH where I promptly fainted. Taken in a wheelchair to the cafe, where I had a decaf Cappuccino (no sprinkles) & a chicken skewer... quite embarrassing. Feel ok now, except for the tail end of the migraine. Not sure how much was the migraine & how much was down to not having eaten. I do tend to faint due to migraines & meds though. DH has quite rightly told me off (gently) for forgetting to eat. I have a neurologist appointment next month, FWIW, as my migraines have got massively worse in recent months. I have horrible short-term memory problems at the moment.

B, L: as above. Not ideal. Blush
D: Homemade beef burger with gouda melted on top (no bun, obvs), salad, possibly some mayonnaise if I get my arse in gear to make it.

wombattoo · 14/10/2017 17:53

Grimbles Yes, my tastes have changed and a can taste any form of sweetness in food instantly. It's remarkable.

Welcome SoMuch.

prettybird I am 53yrs old. We never ate processed foods growing up. My mum cooked from scratch every day. Fish and chips were a rare treat and the only takeaway food we ever had.

In relation to supermarkets, I rarely need to visit the middle aisles of the shops, unless it's tea/coffee/toiletries. As a low carber, everything I need is around the edges of the stores. Meat/veg/cream.

RubyGoat · 14/10/2017 17:54

Apologies for any X-post. It took me a long time to post that. I nearly didn't.

wombattoo · 14/10/2017 17:55

Lego Thanks

Is someone keeping an eye on the number of posts on this thread? We will likely need a continuation until BIWI starts a new thread on Monday. I am going out this evening so won't be around when the thread is full.

wombattoo · 14/10/2017 17:58

@BIWI Will you be around later to start a continuation thread? It's so much easier to see your posts highlighted. Grin

SoMuchToBits · 14/10/2017 18:00

wombat, yes, takeaways and meals out were a very rare treat in the 60s. Our habits have changed a lot!

I'm looking forward to roasted veg (with lots of olive oil) and minted minced lamb kebab this evening. Smile

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 14/10/2017 18:01

Stuntnun did you cube the pork belly into large pieces?
Did you do the rending on low for hours or a simmer for an hour?

prettybird you were right epic musing.
Blush speaking of c4 has any heard from the gammeldagfinder or is the puppy and breathing distracting her from us. Grin

wombattoo · 14/10/2017 18:05

Grah I think C4 posted yesterday or the day before.

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 14/10/2017 18:10

@ChinchillaFur Or any one else.
What to do with cream cheese? Have a large tub of spreadable version gotta be gone in 3 weeks or waste of money. Do I just spread on flax crackers or can I throw into a stir fry

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