Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

996 replies

BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
41
HarlotsWeb · 14/10/2017 06:01

Morning all. Well done to all with victories and well done to all who are carrying on without having seen a victory yet.

Today's mission - drink enough bloody water.

blackteaplease · 14/10/2017 06:08

Hello cheekbones, nice to see you again. I'm so glad I started Bootcamp.

Last night was a NSV for me. I had a peppermint tea and olives while DH had wine and crisps. I need to go shopping today to stock up on essentials, I have ran out of cream for my coffee which is a disaster.

Have a good day everyone, 2 days left til week one is done!

OuaisMaisBon · 14/10/2017 06:43

Good morning, all! Well, though I managed to stay off wine and chocolate last night, I ventured downstairs at about 11.00pm to stuff my face with chicken with tarragon and celeriac gratin. Not a good idea as I know my body works better if I don't eat late. Never mind, today is another day! KOKO, everyone!

StuntNun · 14/10/2017 07:11

Brassica there are loads of non-dairy fats: lard, beef dripping, goose fat, duck fat, coconut oil, olive oil, avocado oil, walnut oil. Butter is less than 1% protein and it's the protein in dairy that can impede weight loss in some people (because it provokes a disproportionately high insulin response). So unless you're actually allergic to dairy then butter is fine. Ghee is even lower in the protein, the one without ethyl butyrate tastes more like butter.

I was dairy-free for about a year while breastfeeding my DS4 who is allergic to them and it didn't make any difference to my weight loss. He's also allergic to egg, soya and coconut so I had a very boring diet for a while, pretty just meat and veggies.

I made the fried pork belly recipe that Grah suggested yesterday and it was yummy. Very calorific though as DH and I ate about a pound of pork belly between us. Burp! If anyone else is thinking of trying it I would use a saucepan rather than a wok.
Chicharrones recipee*

Rshard · 14/10/2017 07:27

Morning all

Passed my first eating out situation yesterday. Looked at the menu before, sought advice here and chose wisely. Resisted the French bread, dauphinois potato and just had tap water. Really pleased with myself!

Good luck to everyone navigating the first weekend of boot camp - KOKO

Scabbersley · 14/10/2017 07:48

I've lost 5lb Shock

Motivated to keep on. I'm sure it's lack of calories rather than 'science' but I just don't feel hungry!

Bacon sausage and eggs for breakfast, then I need something with lots of veg for lunch if anyone can recommend anything.

Hippadippadation · 14/10/2017 07:50

Well done all those who ate out BC style! It can be done. I drink sparkling water when I'm out, it feels like a treat, haha.

I'm off to a Macmillan coffee morning this morning with DD1. I made two tiffins for it and didn't lick any of the chocolate off anything when I was making it! Go me! There'll be quite a few there so I should be able to get away with just playing the games and not eating any of the cakes.

Food plan:
B - sausage omelette (so I don't get tempted by the cakes!)
L - dunno
D - chilli & cauliflower rice

cafeaulaitpourvous · 14/10/2017 08:25

Sneaky weigh in - lost 7lbs ( but chances are it will be less by Monday)

No idea what I am going yo have today - we are helping decorate my best friends new house before they move in and there are no cooking facilities yet.

CremeDeSudo · 14/10/2017 09:06

Just wrote out a long response and lost it Angry

@sheepy thanks for responding! No I don't like the tartness- just tried it...bleurgh. I usually make a smoothie with whatever random fruit I have lying around! I use blue milk and make a smoothie every 3-4 days. I think I'll try adding a spoonful to my yoghurt..

I started taking it in Feb after a cancer scare and also cancer runs in my family. I'm hoping it'll reduce my chances of getting breast cancer in particular. I think my nails are stronger too though and I haven't been sick in ages! touches wood

I'm pleased I can carry on taking it. I felt so powerless against cancer and it feels like I'm taking control somehow.

Thiswillbemyusername · 14/10/2017 09:20

Morning everyone Smile I've got nothing to report really so I'm shamelessly placemarking so I know where to start catching up on the thread later

bellalurgy · 14/10/2017 09:28

Morning all Grin Thanks for the support Flowers

I can safely say I won't be eating breakfast today - I still feel really full! Onwards and downwards!

DH made yoghurt yesterday, it's set beautifully. He hasn't done it for ages cos we couldn't find the right soya milk. They don't all work - something to do with no bacteria to ferment?? Anyway, it works out at 1.5g carbs per 100ml which is lower than most shop bought and it's live so really good for your gut. Total is now £2.75 Shock Ridiculous to be so happy about it but......

Today we have guests for dinner who'll bring wine but there will be no carby twatdom I have low carb moussaka with veg and a low carb pud. I'll aim to go back to my usual 2 meals today - my stomach will be much happier for it! Lesson learnt (till next time!)

Have a good weekend everyone

KOKO x

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 14/10/2017 09:33

Probably ought to check in. I know this weekend isn't going to be perfect as I am staying with a friend. My normal reaction at points like this is to say fuck it and completely quit, have a massive binge and start again on Monday. In an attempt to avoid that i am trying to keep to bootcamp light. I know this will slow down fat adaption but hopefully it's better than giving up completely.

My friend is doing slimming world so is sympathetic to my diet but basically eating all the opposite things!

So yesterday
B- ff Greek yoghurt with some vanilla essence
L- meatballs with veg roasted in pesto
S- ham and cheese rolls, guacamole with carrots
D- slimming world chicken balti - added a bit of cream, broccoli with butter.

I also had two gin and slims

Today-
B- scrambled eggs, bacon on avocado
L- will be out. Will probably go to Nando's as I think that will work for both of us.
D- god knows!

I know I am relying too much on cheese and processed meat to get through and I need to address that. It's lunch that I find tricky, especially as I'm usually lazy and buy it from m&s but they have a very limited selection. I think I need to start batch cooking for the week so I don't have to think about it.

Scabbersley · 14/10/2017 09:35

Does anyone know if it's possible to bootcamp at Wagamama? Said I'd take dd next week. Usually have a raw juice and a ramen!!

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 14/10/2017 09:39

Scabbersley it's probably not perfect but I usually have one of the noodle soup things and ask for it with no noodles. Chicken itame is my fave but a standard one is probably safer.
I add loads of chilli oil as well

wecantallbeperfect · 14/10/2017 09:42

Morning all just checking in.

I felt so bloody good last night not giving into the Friday night feast! I am absolutely fed up of eating rubbish and feeling ill all night Blush

I went to bed feeling normal, not sick and vague with awful brain fog. Onwards and upwards today.

B 2 scrambled eggs with butter
L left over fakeaway with salad
D lamb shank with veg

Managed over my 3 L water yesterday so will aim to achieve that again today.

Have a good day everyone Smile

Almahart · 14/10/2017 09:53

Scabbersley I think when I last went I noticed that some of the starters were low carb deep fried things (though watch out for breadcrumbs etc)

Frigglet · 14/10/2017 10:01

Good morning all. I haven’t weighed myself since Monday and a little bit in two minds about whether to or not. I can see that my clothes look and feel better already. I guess my thing is, if the scales don’t show a decent decrease I’ll feel a wave of disappointment - even though I already feel better.

Question pls: I hope I’ll explain this properly. Does anyone else’s stomach feel ‘missing’ or just ‘not there’? I don’t have any tummy growling, but neither do I feel full. I kind of a strange feeling of tummy absence. I know that I’m now eating for a purpose to try and stick to the rules of BC as I definitely don’t have any cues or reminders from by tummy to eat. Any thoughts on this please? And will it pass? I don’t necessarily like or dislike it - it’s just unfamiliar to me.

InkyToesies · 14/10/2017 10:06

Hello. Blimey, this thread moves quickly doesn't it. It's so useful reading about other people's experiences and I've learned a lot from the posts. I don't want to weigh myself until Monday. To be truthful, I'd rather not weigh myself at all as I find the tyranny of the scales so unhelpful - I end up obsessing over numbers.

I found some Bare Naked noodles in Sainsbury's so look forward to trying them.

I've been eating a lot of egg-based meals as they're so quick and easy and cheap. Im getting fed up with them though so will introduce more variety. Veggies are coming from the allotment. Greek salad without feta is my go-to snack - I don't mind feta but I prefer the salad without it. And salmon...yum. I find drinking plain water a pain, and so I add a splash of apple cider vinegar to it and it makes such a difference. Zero carbs and a bit of potassium. Even then, I'm failing at drinking my quota of fluids so I need to give that some attention.

My home-made mayonnaise was disastrous - tried several batches and it kept splitting. I've clearly lost my mayo mojo. I didn't even like the colour / flavour of it, so it's back to Hellmans for me. I'll see if I can find the other one (Delois? Sp?) and if it's not a lot dearer, I might give that a whirl.

Meantime, thanks everyone. KOKO!

Gammeldragz · 14/10/2017 10:08

Morning all. Yesterday was successfully LC.
Breakfast - Greek yog, cream, cinnamon.
Lunch - Greek salad
Dinner - 2 chili burgers, halloumi, mayo, spinach leaves.

However, I didn't eat dinner until 10:30pm as I ended up having a severe allergic reaction to the Naproxen I took when I got back from work Sad
Started with sneezing and itching, then I went bright red and hives all over, palpitations and very tachycardic. Dizziness and nausea. Called 999 as my throat felt a bit tight and the dizziness was freaking me out.
Rather eventful! But as I'd taken antihistamine as soon as I got itchy, by the time the ambulance arrived I was improving and just cold and shaky. Apparently if I hadn't acted so quickly I'd have been a lot more poorly. Managed to avoid going to hospital, so I did eat dinner in the end but I'm heavier this morning, probably because I ate late.
Feeling a bit tired and delicate today!

HolgerDanske · 14/10/2017 10:10

Regarding the feeling you describe, of having no stomach or not being aware of feeling full or hungry - I actually think that this is how we're meant to feel. This is how the body is meant to work. When you bear in mind that for most of humanity's history we ate berries, roots and meats with plenty of fat, and that wheat and other carby foods are actually a very recent addition to people's diets, it makes so much sense. Not feeling hunger or being excessively full would have been much more advantageous in the earlier parts of human history.

Cherrypi · 14/10/2017 10:25

Argh I missed the start. Why didn't I write it down. I've been eating the same as my family and have put on 8.5 lb on since the last bootcamp. Feeling dreadful and really want to reach a healthy bmi for the first time before I'm 35.

HolgerDanske · 14/10/2017 10:28

Welcome Cherry it's never too late to start!

ilovecherries · 14/10/2017 10:41

ragz that sounds very scary. Hope you can have dome down time today to recover.

I've been out for my morning jog/walk, wrapped 20 ebay parcels of size 22 clothes and had an NSV from uniqlo - my trousers were falling down so ordered a new pair in large. They accidentally sent medium - and they fit! 6 months ago I couldn't buy anything there, and was so pleased in June to buy my first trousers in XXL, then went into XL about 6 weeks ago.

YoLoNovVitMe · 14/10/2017 10:44

ragz hope you are better! That must have been a bit scary.

GailLondon · 14/10/2017 10:45

Morning everyone!
Just back from Parkrun - it was my best run in a couple of months! I really struggled with running on my first couple of LC weeks, but I'm 6 weeks in now and I feel great! I am a fat burning machine! Grin

Swipe left for the next trending thread