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So what do we think of the shagging beach couple being jailed then?

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needmorecoffee · 19/10/2008 16:45

Couldn't they have got a room?

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Pan · 19/10/2008 18:17

indeed. She thought ahead..

OrmIrian · 19/10/2008 21:28

I am a bit shocked at sex on the beach at Aberaeron TBH.

We went there in the summer and it was all mud and seaweed.

I've had my share of alfresco sex. I think anyone brought up in the country has to! But it was always discrete and in the best possible taste.

LittleBellaLugosi · 20/10/2008 21:10

Of course it doesn't serve them right.

Prison, for foreplay? Who exactly were they hurting?

Of course they are excessively stupid, but I don't think we should put people in prison for being stupid. Of course the law of the land should be followed, but when the punishment is disproportionate to the crime (as it is in this case) we should recognise it. They should have had a big fine slapped on them and been deported, thus losing their fancy tax free jobs as well. That would seem enough of a punishment to me for mere lewdness, but then, I'm not a muslim patriarch threatened by the concept of sexual enjoyment outside of marriage and obsessed with controlling everybody else's sexual behaviour, so lewdness doesn't actually bother me that much.

This couple didn't rob anyone, or threaten anyone, or make anyone feel bad. They weren't unkind, or frightening, or violent. They were just sexually incontinent, drunk and stupid. We'd have to lock up most British friday night pub-goers if we applied the same standards here. (Perhaps we should? Oh no we can't, there aren't enough prison places are there? OK scrap that.)

umberellascankill · 20/10/2008 21:12

hear hear, littlebella.

Monkeytrousers · 20/10/2008 21:22

Well there are plenty of laws I would support people not respecting in certain cultures. There's no need to get all culturally relativistic about it if you also believe in universal human rights.

They were detained and charged with 3 apparent crimes - engaging in sex outside of marriage, drunkenness and public indecency.

I don't think there are any of these that is deserving of a custodial service and certainly not the first!

VeniVidiVickiQV · 20/10/2008 21:28

Well, I dont disagree MT, but, the fact is, you gotta obey the laws of the land you are in, or just dont visit. Its' tough shit really. I dont have much sympathy.

LittleBellaLugosi · 20/10/2008 21:37

I have no sympathy at all.

But that doesn't mean I think it's OK that these laws even exist. Or the penalties.

Blu · 20/10/2008 21:47

I agree about not going all culturally relativitic about it, and tend to think they were not a menace to the safety of the public and prison is OTT, BUT it isn't as if they were making a great stand for freedom , or had their human rights infringed - shagging in public isn't really legal anywhere.

They were just very stupid.

ADragonIs4LifeNotJustHalloween · 20/10/2008 22:46

"A police officer said he had warned the pair about their inappropriate behaviour, but returned later to find them having sex on a sun lounger."

TBH, I think it serves them right. They'd been warned and told too stop. How f-ing stupid must they be?? I'd probably feel more sorry for them had they not been warned but arrested in the first instance.

hf128219 · 20/10/2008 22:49

OK then. So why don't Muslims in UK adhere to our law and practices?

beeny · 20/10/2008 22:52

I am a muslim, think they should have been moved on or spent a night in jail dubai is a hypocritical society.

elkiedee · 20/10/2008 22:56

???? Now there's a sweeping racist generalisation!

beeny · 20/10/2008 23:05

I just find that dubai wants to be like Vegas but when in their opinion its too much they become a bit precious.I say this as a modern, professional, practising muslim.

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beeny · 20/10/2008 23:10

I hope it was romantic

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beeny · 20/10/2008 23:14

I am thinking mills and boon

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witcheseve · 20/10/2008 23:16

I've been on holiday to Dubai and always covered up when I came off the beach. They have ladies days at some beaches so you can strip off without feeling embarrassed about being exposed. The men stare not sure its leering or comtempt for western women. Shagging on it nooo!

beeny · 20/10/2008 23:16

In a goodway you all gorgeous him all handsome

KerryMumchingOnEyeballs · 20/10/2008 23:18

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beeny · 20/10/2008 23:20

Do not tell me he was fat and bald will spoil my image

witcheseve · 20/10/2008 23:22

Contempt

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