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Shannon Matthews Mother arrested !!!!!

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kay1981 · 07/04/2008 09:22

They have arrested her on perverting the course of justice - which i think means lying to the police under oath doesnt it?

Is it at all possible that they knew where she was all the time?

Perhaps cahnnel 4 should now re-show the documentary on shannons family and see how it is received knowing what we know.

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Divastrop · 07/04/2008 12:17

the only people ive known to live in squalor or poverty(and let their children live that way)are drug addicts and alcoholics,whi spend all their benefit money on their addictions and have nothing left for food and bills.

and only a sick twisted mother would fake her own daughters kidnapping.i dont think being sick and twisted has anything to do with where you come from or how much money you have.

Remotew · 07/04/2008 12:20

That list makes sense. I read somewhere that they also included money for school trips. Notice it didnt include mobile phone contracts, plasma tv's and laptops (though I think computers are deemed an necessity nowadays for school children).

More kids mean more benefits and for longer.

Divastrop · 07/04/2008 12:21

chocfest-maybe they thought 'great-another kid=more benefit money' and were too thick to realise another kid=more money to pay out?

tiredemma · 07/04/2008 12:22

That list was early 1990's though- It would be interesting to see what the population would class as 'necessities' now.

Im sure mobile phones would appear somewhere, aswell as internet.

nailpolish · 07/04/2008 12:24

surely mobile phones would not be deemed necessary we didnt have a house phone til i was 12 and we survived

im not sure about computers either tbh

chocfest · 07/04/2008 12:26

yes diva, sounds more like it. Surely she cannot be ignorant of the ways of getting pregnant!! You would begin to ask yourself questions of how it always happens to her and not others!!

If she were religious, I dont know of any religeon that involves the ever increasing speculation that she was in some way involved in her childs alleged abduction.

nailpolish · 07/04/2008 12:28

chocfest i wasnt specifcially talking about her

you know, some women dont ahve any choice when it comes to getting pregnant. for lots of reasons. others just dont care

chocfest · 07/04/2008 12:30

soz nailpolish, i was looking at it from her situation

wannaBe · 07/04/2008 12:30

computers are not necessary. Most towns have a library with access to the internet. mobile phones definitely not necessary either.

Having grown up in Africa, my definition of what constitutes poverty differs widely from that of most I think.

But agree with chocfest re not continuing to have children. There is no reason why people need to keep having children in this day and age, none. contraception is readily available, presumably Karen Matthews will have been told about contraception at some point after the birth of one of her several children, in fact given that many children she would have been entitled to sterilisation so as not to have to use contraception all her life.

I know some people seem to think they should be allowed to keep on having as many children as they want, but not if they can't afford to pay for them, and the care system is now picking up the pieces they shouldn't.

chocfest · 07/04/2008 12:32

your dead right wannabe, i would loved to have had more children, but financially 3 was our limit, to raise without relying on anyones financial assistance.

tiredemma · 07/04/2008 12:38

( I was being sarcastic about the mobiles and internet- could you live without your mnet???)

rebelmum1 · 07/04/2008 12:45

what about the child porn they found? I missed this documentary when was it?

JeremyVile · 07/04/2008 12:45

Unless we want to live in a society where women (particularly poorer women) have their fertility policed then I think we just have to accept that some will always choose to have children when they cannot afford them.
We are privileged enough to live in a country that can sustain this.

Maybe she just kept having kids because she loved doing so? And if you have been raised with low career/financial expectations then, really, why not keep having kids if thats what you find fulfilling?

I just find it uncomfortable when people who scrape by (because that's what they do, they're not living the life if Riley) are derided as thick/greedy/lazy etc.

Some may be all of those things and more, who knows, but they are also among the least privileged in our society. Bit of an easy target really.

horseshoe · 07/04/2008 12:46

I cant see how they were THAT poor. A few days after Shannon went missing they were filmed coming home from shopping and all I could see were crates and crates of lager!

It was at that point I did question the family, rightly or wrongly.

Perverting the course of justice could just mean that she was aware that there was a "monster" within the family and failed to notify police.

chocfest · 07/04/2008 12:47

"We are privilieged to live in a country that can sustain this"

I'm not sure about that bit

JeremyVile · 07/04/2008 12:48

But why did you question them HorseShoe?
What has their finances to do with anything?
Because buying beer didn't fit in with the impression you had of them?

JeremyVile · 07/04/2008 12:49

What are you questioning? The sentiment or just my dodgy spelling?

chocfest · 07/04/2008 12:49

who me?

JeremyVile · 07/04/2008 12:50

Yes...

DeeRiguer · 07/04/2008 12:50

i dont see that it this crime is anything to do with class..
charles lindbergh anyone?

there are evil feckers, male and female, in every strata of society**where and if it still exists, of course..

horseshoe · 07/04/2008 12:53

I just thought for me personally I would be out pounding the streets. Going shopping for that much alcohol would be the last thing on my mind if my DD went missing and insinuates that the family unit was not stable at that moment in time. Looked like they were about to have a PARTY!

Financially my point was that in order to afford that much...they could NOT be scraping the bottom of the barrell as has been suggested. I believe he worked

horseshoe · 07/04/2008 12:55

By no means am i suggesting anyone is guilty although we know someone within the family unit is!!! Theres alot more to this case than the press have been given access to and I think the police knew it from the start.

I have never heard of the mother being kept away from a child even if another family memeber has been involved.

nailpolish · 07/04/2008 12:56

i agree with horseshoe tbh

if my child was missing id not be at the supermarket. id not be drinking alcohol.

chocfest · 07/04/2008 12:59

not the spelling, did you see how i spelt privilidges!

No, just the bit that this country can sustain it. I dont think it can.

I would much rather my taxes were spent on healthcare, and helping childless couples concieve, the fight against cancer etc,a million other good causes, including getting genuine poverty stricken families the help they deserve.

this is going right off the thread tough i think!

NorthernLurker · 07/04/2008 13:00

Strange how a story with what seems like a happy ending - Shannon being found alive and well - is now getting worse and worse! It occurs to me that Shannon's youngest sister is now in the unenviable position of having had both her parents arrested. Poor little mites

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