'Drink during pregnancy and you will get a naughty child

[idlingabout]

Was only half awake this morning when heard on Today programme that research has shown that women who drink during pregnancy are more likely to have 'naughty' children. I'm surprised the newsreader didn't corpse saying that one. Perhaps I missed something but it just came out as so ridiculous especially straight after the 'breast-feeding gives you clever children' announcement.

That does it then. It definitely is my fault!

Am taking dses out soon and predict this one will have kicked off by the time I get back.

FWIW: It's entirely possiblöe and plausible, IMO, that excessive drinking in pregnancy can lead to behavioural problems (not the same as 'naughty children', FFS). But I will not start beating myself up about my glass of wine every 3-ish weeks from 20 weeks and examining my 6-week-old for signs of delinquency.

It may be true, the foetus and the developing cells have no defense against anything that is in your bloodstream. But it would also put most food stuffs except water on the same list as having something in them that is bad for your baby.
I didn't drink at all (or smoke) when carrying DS2 and he's the one with special needs.

Surely the causation runs the other way round? I have naughty children, therefore I drink?

that is exactly what i have been banking on sweetboy!

kerry katona still drinking/smoking apparently

If you don't have a drink and feel stressed doesn't that affect the foetus as well?

I have it on good authority that if you eat and drink during pregnancy, you are quite likely to produce a child that does dirty great turds, throws up and will eventually refuse to put on a jumper at some point.

Sweetboy - it was exactly that linkage which was making me find the 'news' so ridiculous as they literally headlined the one after the other. I can't get out of my mind the vision of loads of interfering types wagging their fingers at pregnant women having perhaps the only drink of their entire pregnancy and threatening them with ''you'll get a naughty child now you terrible woman!!!''

....but if you keep on drinking after pregnancy you just won't care!{grin}

Bother, hate it when my emoticons go wrong

Funnily I drank wine when pregnant with DS and have an extremely well behaved child. (Result!)

Drank less (recommendations changed) with DD and she is noticeably naughtier.

I intend to submit this in-depth survey to the New England Medical Journal and the Lancet for peer review.

What happens if you don't drink while pregnant but then do when bfing? Do you get naughty but very very clever children?

OMGhelp point about there being no barrier in the blood steam, means that if you have a drink, so will your unborn baby.
You wouldn't want a newborn or small child to feel the effects of alcohol, so why is it different for an unborn child.

Same with smoking. Although i appreciate it can be difficult for some preg ladies who have chemical dependencies on alcohol and nicotine.

I once heard on a US show that preg ladies who get drunk, are effectively pickling their unborn baby in alcohol.
Not sure how true that is. But if it is its pretty shocking.

Lol OrmIrian. I drank on occasion whilst breast-feeding (sometimes at the same time) and would say my dd was bright but not particularly naughty but then I also ate lots of Mars bars on the advice of the HV. Perhaps I will join Anchovy and send off my in-depth research too

My radar suspects that this piece of 'news' has more to do with anti-drinking propaganda than hard science. What the protagonists of the 'perfect mother' are trying to say is that women who are irresponsible enough to drink whilst pregnant are more likely to have naughty children because they're slatterns who ought to ducked in the village pond.

BURN ALL THE WITCHES!!!

The world is obsessed with the fetus at the moment. Never mind that naughty kids just don't get reprimanded anymore. That, of course, has got eff all to do with it!

Too right Desiderata - plus it also manages to lay all the blame at the woman's door.

so whats the excuse for my demons because i didnt even sniff alcohol??????

bet you any money that a bloke found this revelation out

Desiderata- you have said it all

Death to evil, drinking, working, selfish demoness mothers!!!

I mean, poor foetuses. Their vessels insist on having lives and appetites of their own. surely they should (and will) be criminalised asap????

Well, that's sorted that out, then!

We could make a snakes and ladders for this. Breastfeed and move three squares along.
Drink during pregnancy and move three back. Wean too early and move one square back.
Wean at six months onto organic purees and move forward one square.
Hear your five-year old read every night and go forward six squares.
Serve chicken nuggets and move back seventy...etc, etc.

Eliza, that's great! Get it into production by christmas. Guilt and ladders... I can see it now

Guilt and ladders is a good name! You could include a hammer to hit yourself on the head with if you lose, and a few green teabags to brew if you are a smug perfect mother.

Or a Boden catalogue.