"The Conservatives are criminally incompetent" - Matthew Parris

[abilockhart]

The former Conservative MP Matthew Parris believes the Conservatives are criminally incompetent:

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/the-conservatives-are-criminally-incompetent-zbnppmx92

Paywall.

You, as an OP, are incompetent ;)

It's behind a paywall.
Hardly surprising- even if you're someone who thinks Brexit is a good idea, hard to see how you'd be happy with how things are being done.

Firewall. However I would certainly agree they are spectacularly inept. The sad thing is I cant see anyone else doing any better. I think our politician's and those in Europe are essentially managing their countries on behalf of big business and have no actual idea or indeed principles.

Parris hasn't been an MP for over 20 years and achieved nothing whilst he was in Parliament. You can enjoy his frequent drivelling attacks on Brexit for nothing in the Spectator, so long as you clear your browsing history every couple of reads.

He is a committed remainer who does not believe in democracy. There's really nothing more to say about him.

The Conservatives are criminally incompetent

WhollyFather
Parris hasn't been an MP for over 20 years and achieved nothing whilst he was in Parliament. You can enjoy his frequent drivelling attacks on Brexit for nothing in the Spectator, so long as you clear your browsing history every couple of reads.

Agree with every word. But of course left wingers/remainers who can't seem to get over whining about the referendum will hang on to every word as gospel regardless. I personally wouldn't give him room to write on my loo roll.

Can't see the article, but I certainly haven't seen/heard of any positive, efficient decisions from conservatives in a long time (ever?) since they were voted in. I wish they had a more prominent and stronger voice for their centrist MPs. I wish one of them would replace May soon and then perhaps UK might not be quite so doomed although I don't see how the damage they caused can ever be repaired.

I love Matthew Paris but he's always been an "independent thinker"/"loose cannon". I don't think his views, however correct, hold any special weight.

What is this story about? Is it just a rabid 'remoaner' spouting off because he doesn't like us democratically leaving the EU?

He has put into words what I have been thinking for the last few years. David Cameron, really?

Can't believe what he's said is being dismissed as "remoaning".
He said he was ashamed to be Conservative, as someone who's spent his life as a Conservative MP that must be a horrible feeling. I think it's more to do with how shambolic the government is in every regard than specifically Brexit

It's about the fact that the conservative party gambled that holding a ref would result in a vote to remain in the EU, did nothing to prepare for the possibility of a vote to leave, then voted to trigger article 50 despite apparently having no consensus on the conditions we would like or how to go about getting them.

I agree, it's scandalous.

If this was a plc they'd all have been sacked surely.

I always think it must be really hard to come up with a weekly topic for a newspaper.
If you don't produce a bit of controversy and interest regularly you will probably lose your job. So I don't really take a lot of articles seriously.

I find it hard to believe no one is doing anything regarding Brexit - presumably there is lots going on behind closed doors - civil service, banks, farming lobbies etc........ we will see in time.

There are lots of people who air their Brexit angst just to sell a few newspapers. I think the real scandal is how we ever ended up so deep in the EU without a vote. I remember every party promising it at one time or another. Now we know what people really think we can get back to being a democratic country.

Now we know what people really think we can get back to being a democratic country.
We don't know what people "really think". And we always were a democratic country.

quentin

Can't believe what he's said is being dismissed as "remoaning"

Its because if you criticise the CURRENT tory government it makes you a lefty, democracy hating remainer

Tots obvs

if you criticise the CURRENT tory government it makes you a lefty, democracy hating remainer
Talk about making things up. He is moaning about the UK not remaining in the UK. Its not big conspiracy, Matthew is just having a good old fashioned 'moan'.

UK not remaining in the UK. Obviously meant in the EU

Havent made anything up fresh

I have seen it on a number of threads

And no I'm not going to link...

It was your remoaner comment ...i assumed you mean remoaner in the brexit way

Someone's added a photo of the article in the OP here
forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2234045/the-conservatives-are-criminally-incompetent

fresh are you pleased with how the Conservatives are handling Brexit? I think it's absolutely shambolic personally

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 Sorry no way to know you were actually replying to comments somewhere else on the internet. Perhaps you should reference them?

are you pleased with how the Conservatives are handling Brexit? I am not pleased or displeased. I have nothing to compare it to. i suspect it would go no better nor worse no matter who was doing it!

fresh

I tend to address posts to the person i am replying to

But I appreciate that that has obviously caused some confusion

Rufustherenegadereindeer1
Yes its hard given the article is unreadable.

Wouldnt argue with that fresh

This is another link to the artice:

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