Is anyone else reading about climate change?

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It's getting more and more worrying. Even if we stopped drilling today we're still in line for catastrophic climate change.

Monbiot today.

This follows a report last week from the Scripps Institution of Oceanography showing that carbon will never again drop below 400ppm.

Recycling and composting and taking fewer flights isn't going to help, really. Only our politicians can do this by drastic action. And that doesn't look likely.

Thoughts? And please, it would be great if this didn't descend into a climate change denial thread.

Delingpole not Delapole!

Raleigh and Dyson used to manufacture in the UK.
The cost of UK environmental protection and other legislation forced them to put thair UK workforce on the dole.

So now we can buy the same products but they are now manufactured without environmental production.

Surely the difference in the cost of wages was more of a factor? The engine of capitalism has moved into the developing world in so many sectors, because the cost of labour is so much lower. If you can pay a worked 10p an hour in one market to do the same job as someone who needs £8 an hour in another, you may think about outsourcing your factories.

According to Dyson's own publicity materials, the factors in their move out of Britain were:

1. the cheaper cost of labour in the far east
2. the proximity of suppliers in the far east
3. the decision to remain outside the Euro

See www.theguardian.com/business/2002/feb/06/manufacturing.globalrecession

I'm absolutely not saying that there isn't an opt-out of regulatory regimes by outsourcing. Clearly, there is. This is why we need more and stronger global agreements to regulate, not less regulation.

Proposal for a Climate Change topic board in Site Stuff - FAO those of you who hadn't already seen it via a more recent thread.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/2764769-Please-can-we-have-a-climate-change-topic
Please post in it if you are interested.