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Art - or tantamount to child abuse?

54 replies

emkana · 28/07/2006 23:37

make your mind up here

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waterfalls · 28/07/2006 23:39

Thats wicked

tortoise · 28/07/2006 23:39

Don't like them at all.Makes me feel like cryng looking at their little sad faces.

waterfalls · 28/07/2006 23:43

Greenberg herself insists that the children had the sweets returned within 30 seconds.

Some of them have an awful lot of dribble and tears for 30 seconds.

southeastastra · 28/07/2006 23:44

it's a bit miserable

madrose · 28/07/2006 23:53

don't like it. the pictures show the vulnerability of children. too depressing

chubbleigh · 28/07/2006 23:54

Well if she had given my boy a lolly and then tried to take it back she would have risked losing a finger in the process. When he's not having it he's just NOT having it. They are not that nice to look at but I think she has got that thing of when you see their little faces crumple and it just gets you, you wouldn't want one for the mantlepiece would you. Don't think it is abuse just a bit mean, really you do it all the time when you think about it, take back sweets because they are sucking the rapper or can't chocolate grannys sofa etc.etc.

Jimjams2 · 28/07/2006 23:59

I looked at it and thought thank god ds2 isn't the only one to react like that

jampots · 29/07/2006 00:03

I am shocked at some of the reactions in the photos (all absolutely beautiful children by th way). I would have gone mad if my children had reacted like that if someone had taken sweets from them.

OrlaGuerin · 29/07/2006 00:10

I think to make kids cry just because you want to take a photo of them is immoral somehow.

Blu · 29/07/2006 00:20

hmmm. I hate this. I hate the way she has staged the kids to show no clothing. I actually think the faces of the photos of children are extraordinary - but the SKILL of an artist should be to be able to capture, recreate or interpret the spontaneous emotion of a human being, not manufatcure it.

Imagine if the success of Shakespeare's King Lear had depended on him putting the eyes out of some hapless actor or model.

olivia35 · 29/07/2006 00:50

Far too chocolate-boxy anyway, very contrived.

If someone gave ds a lolly & then snatched it off him I'd not be at all happy: a) I'd rather he didn't have sweets & b) IF he does have the occasional treat I don't want it to be an issue or a big deal.

Ugh. Bad art (looks like those green children Woollies used to sell) & thoughtless.

marthamoo · 29/07/2006 01:01

Why are they so shiny and plastic-y looking?

suzywong · 29/07/2006 01:05

Why the Hell are they naked?

are they meant to be a pastiche of the Crying Mexican Orphan series you know the ones printed onto velour with a clistening teardrop. Old BF's mother had one of those in pride of place

Chandra · 29/07/2006 02:42

Your BF's mother has WHAT???

Anyways, I didn't like the photos, one thing is to picture a child having a bad time and another one to cause distress to get the picture, the nakedness also stress their vulnerability further.

As for the plastic-y look, if I am not wrong it should be vaseline smudged over the lenses, a very popular effect during the Art Deco period.

Tortington · 29/07/2006 03:03

and the point is?

i dont undestand pointless art. art that makes you think or consider its subject, medium, light, message. but poinless shite for the shock. nice

rhubarb once came up with a fabulous idea of taking photos of roadkill to see if it would be deemed fabulous.

is shock really the only alternative we have left? are we so very jaded?

trinityrhino · 29/07/2006 07:11

hmmm, I don't like it, don't see the point, seems a little weird

schneebly · 29/07/2006 07:14

don't like it.

tortoiseshell · 29/07/2006 07:17

think they're horrible. hate them. why would you want to make a child cry so you could take a picture of them? there are enough crying children in the world already.

Miaou · 29/07/2006 07:21

I don't think they achieve the point she is trying to make at all (the politics comment) - I just find them distressing

7up · 29/07/2006 07:32

awful and exactly whos kids are they!did they really allow them to be photographed like this AND naked. makes child modelling look very bad on the parents

DontlookatmeImshy · 29/07/2006 07:36

Its just mean

Chubbleigh there is a difference between taking away a sweet away just to make them cry and taking it away because they are sucking the wrapper etc

cataloguequeen · 29/07/2006 07:40

I don't think it's abuse...a bit wicked to take lollies but abuse???nah

Art is art sometimes provoking,thought filled,beautiful sometimes not...like life wouldn't say this is particularly bad in comparison to some at least she did have a motive/topic.

I think the children look beautiful and despairing in that one moment.. I have taken pictures of my daughter having a strop and she looks beautiful..it's the way children really envoke their deepest feelings from the most mundane and seemly trivial moments of life...

Looks like a photoshop job to me a little more complex than vaseline on the lens lol

Chandra · 29/07/2006 08:16

Try to do it in Photoshop! that's why the technique has been revived. Verrrrrrryyyy difficult to emulate the llight difraction to that level of perfection!

GeorginaA · 29/07/2006 08:31

I love the pictures - I think they're beautiful captures of the moment. The method to get them makes me feel rather uncomfortable - but if just because of sweets then immediately returned... hmm, no I still don't know.

I have a photo of ds1 screaming his head off as a baby (dh was attending to the problem at the time - I wasn't being neglectful, honest) and I still love looking at it now as it's not a "pristine" fluffy moment - it was life as it was happening. In fact, ALL my favourite shots I've taken of the boys were ones where they're not aware of the camera and just getting on with being themselves.

bin · 29/07/2006 08:34

DISGRACEFUL ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!