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Why I No Longer Feel Comfortable Wearing a Poppy

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 13:21

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/madeleine-fry/poppy-day_b_4169581.html

very eloquently put. Exactly how I feel about the whole debacle.

November 11th should be for those who selflessly gave their lives in the World Wars, not those who chose to fight dubious campaigns abroad.

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 22:27

I am entitled to my opinion I am also entitled to start a thread discussing that opinion, find likeminded people and have a chat about it.

I dont need your permission to do that but thanks for offering it up anyway.

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 22:28

Supports the armed forces, the armed forces wage wars and hurt people.

That is my belief.

I notice nobody has answered my questions about how much 'better' we would be if someone had waged war on us when our human rights were not as good as they are now?

A London without any nice buildings, no infrastructure put in by the Romans, all this stuff we take for granted, which makes up our heritage we destroy in other countries.

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SatinSandals · 31/10/2013 22:29

Of course you are, but equally I can offer my opinion whether you like it or not! It is a public board and if you wish to chat with like minded people only it is not the place!

SatinSandals · 31/10/2013 22:31

It is all to do with being an island, had we been on mainland Europe we would have changed borders over the years.

cjel · 31/10/2013 22:31

wearing poppies is a memorial to the awfulness of war. It is saying that these wars are so dreadful that we should never forget that so that we don't get it wrong like that again. The opposite of what you think GECKOS - you have been misinformed.

I'm chilled about hating war, and my grandfather hid in west wales the whole of the first world war so he didn't have to fight as he was a pacifist. Don't think poppies are connected to supporting war, as I just said you are misinformed.
Yu have said things on this post that are just wrong, and I would disagree with you in RL about those as wellSmile

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 22:32

I am not trying to suggest anyone else cannot offer their opinion(?) I dont think there have been any examples of that on this thread?

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funnyossity · 31/10/2013 22:32

Gecko I'd disagree in RL but I'd probably not wish to fall out with you so you might well mistake me for being "quite chilled"!

I'll be wearing a poppy in personal remembrance of family members and for me it has a wider significance as a reminder of the futility of war. That was the cultural significance passed to me by family members who had lived through the World Wars. (I really don't bother myself with what D Cameron or any others say.)

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 22:33

The money raised by poppies goes to supporting soldiers though doesnt it?

How is that not supporting war?

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SatinSandals · 31/10/2013 22:33

That is why I wear one, cjel.

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 22:34

I dont often get into massive debates with people in RL unless they invite it.

I am just saying that it is rare to find the level of distaste for someone who is against war as you do on here. Most people I meet understand why you might be against war.

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funnyossity · 31/10/2013 22:34

See I cross-posted with a few others.

SatinSandals · 31/10/2013 22:35

I think we are all against war!!

cjel · 31/10/2013 22:35

Its not supporting war though is it ? Its supporting human beings who are in need! It doesn't pay for bombs or bullets, it pays for things that our fellow humans have need of.

justanuthermanicmumsday · 31/10/2013 22:35

I'm muslim I used to wear it but for reasons gecko has outlined concisely I no longer do. If there was a separate one for the world war veterans I'd be happy to wear it

cocoleBOO · 31/10/2013 22:36

No people wear it for remberence. You are the only person who mentions people wear it to support war Confused. If you don't agree with it don't wear one. It's hardly rocket science.

funnyossity · 31/10/2013 22:36

Gecko most people are against war. The red poppy was a symbol of the utter waste of life in the fields of Flanders and Northern France.

funnyossity · 31/10/2013 22:36

I type so slowly!

BoreOfWhabylon · 31/10/2013 22:37

Then you should think about broaden your social circle.

Just my opinion, of course.

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 22:38

I can't see how you can be anti-war and pro-soldiers.

I know many people are but I just don't get it.

I think that the WW's were different, i think the majority of people fighting in them thought they were doing so for good, nowadays we know different, its easy to see that the armed forces are used for corruption and greed.

I shouldnt have to 'remember' them to 'remember' the fallen from the first two wars.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 31/10/2013 22:38

Sorry, was to Gecko's last post.

BoneyBackJefferson · 31/10/2013 22:38

"We 'owned' the Falklands like we 'owned' India. The moral thing would have been to make it independent or return it."

Can't take the OP seriously as they posted that^^

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Geckos48 · 31/10/2013 22:38

I'm fine with my social circle the way it is thanks.

I should 'increase' it to include more people who are pro-war?

No thanks.

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PurpleJellyDisc · 31/10/2013 22:39

All those evil soldiers, keeping peace and rebuilding countries after genocide and totalitarian regimes, just there because they wanted to drive tanks around. Have a big Biscuit OP. Not the time or the place.

SatinSandals · 31/10/2013 22:39

I can't see the problem. You are not comfortable wearing a red poppy and you now know about white poppies and said you didn't want to change people's minds, therefore if you had a problem you haven't now. Smile

cocoleBOO · 31/10/2013 22:41

Who do you think fought in the two WWs? This might come as a shock but it was soldiers.

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