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FruityPops · 07/10/2013 12:20

Why are so many imams in the UK willing to force fourteen year old girls to marry against their wishes? Don't ordinary muslims know what's going on?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2447720/Clerics-18-mosques-caught-agreeing-marry-girls-14-Four-imams-investigated-undercover-operation.html

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FlapJackOLantern · 07/10/2013 15:54

Out of interest what signs do teachers and ss look for, for girls at risk

You probably won't get a proper answer Wannabe. I've asked 2 questions on this thread that none like crescentmoon nor hubb have answered (and they were questions about which I would like proper information). They just scream and shout their usual reterick.

GoshAnneGorilla · 07/10/2013 16:01

I do feel that everythibg has already been said. AFAIK, many of the bigger mosques will not marry a couple unless they have already/have definite plans to have a UK civil marriage, quite right to IMMO*

I am completely opposed to child marriage and support measures to combat it. What I do not support is skewed reporting and the smearing of the entire Muslim community.

*In My Muslim Opinion.

SilverApples · 07/10/2013 16:02

Some of the signs were in the government link that I posted

'Warning signs
Young people rarely feel able to disclose their feelings about forced marriage. However there are some warning signs that may indicate the possibility of an impending forced marriage:

extended absence from school/college, truancy, drop in academic performance and motivation,

excessive parental restriction and control of movements
history of siblings leaving education early to marry

poor attendance in the workplace, poor performance, parental control of income and limited career choices

evidence of self-harm, treatment for depression, attempted suicide, social isolation, eating disorders or substance abuse

evidence of family disputes/conflict, domestic violence/abuse or running away from home

A young person demonstrating any of the above may not be necessarily at risk, but if you feel concerned about a potential forced marriage you should contact us

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/10/2013 16:07

"... none like crescentmoon nor hubb...''

Oooh, you mean self-confessed muslims?

I really hadn't noticed those two posters doing any screaming or shouting.

SilverApples · 07/10/2013 16:09

Grin But not quite well enough to not comment on it?

FlapJackOLantern · 07/10/2013 16:13

Ah, at last - getting personal, eh? Can't think of anything better to say or do?

SilverApples · 07/10/2013 16:19

Personal? No, but if you are going to use a tricky word to make a point, you might as well use spellcheck.

FlapJackOLantern · 07/10/2013 16:20

Yes, personal about my spelling. Really goes against the MN ethos.

I don't think it's a 'tricky word', but you obviously do.

Wannabestepfordwife · 07/10/2013 16:21

That's really helpful silverapple

I can't remember the name of the charity but there was one that was advising youngsters being taken abroad for forced marriages to put a silver spoon in their underwear so they got stopped at security. I thought it was a genius idea and it was very irresponsible of the mail to publish it.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/10/2013 16:22

I don't think my post was "getting personal" but I apologise for commenting on the typo.

EldritchCleavage · 07/10/2013 16:24

Really goes against the MN ethos

Whereas unpleasant Islamophobic goady-fucking doesn't?

FlapJackOLantern · 07/10/2013 16:28

I wasn't talking about 'unpleasant Islamophobic goady-fucking' Eldritch - I was talking about a PERSONAL attack.

If you want to talk about ^^ then start a thread on it.

YouTheCat · 07/10/2013 16:28

Flap, show us where crescent and Hubb have been shouty? I've been on this thread since page one and have read every post and seen nothing like that from those posters.

SilverApples · 07/10/2013 16:29

Some children have trouble spelling certain words with Greek roots for example. So they are tricky words, because it takes a bit of thought to remember how to spell them if not phonetically.

You don't think rhetoric is tricky to spell?

EldritchCleavage · 07/10/2013 16:33

You're doing it, FlapJack.

FlapJackOLantern · 07/10/2013 16:34

Doing what Eldritch ? Ummmm.......huh?

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/10/2013 16:35

If you think my post was a personal attack, then report it.

I have apologised for drawing attention to a typo. It's not something that I usually do and I shouldn't have done it here but it was in no way a personal attack.

EldritchCleavage · 07/10/2013 16:36

Doing unpleasant Islamophobic goady-fucking, of course.

YouTheCat · 07/10/2013 16:37

Flap, you've been here less than a week. Maybe you should read the talk guidelines? Hmm

SilverApples · 07/10/2013 16:37

You accused crescentmoon and hubb of screaming and shouting, without proof. That probably counts as a personal attack, doesn't it?

FlapJackOLantern · 07/10/2013 16:41

Ummmm YouTheCat - I can assure you I've been here a lot longer than a week. And I know the talk guidelines. And NOTHING I have said can be construed as goady.

All I did was ask a couple of pertinent (see, got the spelling right) questions that no-one answered !

YouTheCat · 07/10/2013 16:44

So you name changed. Big deal.

I think you could do with re-reading the talk guidelines.

SecretWitch · 07/10/2013 16:45

I applaude Crescent, Hub and Banshee for their polite thoughtful responses to clear Anti Islamic attacks. Civil discourse is to be encouraged, disingenuous postings designed to create ill will should be surgically dismembered by intelligent MNer's as quickly as possible.

FlapJackOLantern · 07/10/2013 16:49

Ok YouTheCat - I have obviously got the talk Guidelines wrong. I may have misinterpreted them. So, please, will you put in black and white what I have said that is wrong?

alemci · 07/10/2013 16:55

last week this was on the bbc london news at 6.30 and a journalist was interviewing a young girl in hiding who had been taken on holiday and made to marry against her will. not good.

agree that the church can be sexist as well towards women.

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