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'Number 10 link to paedophile ring'-Press association

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kweggie · 24/10/2012 15:59

'There is "clear intelligence" suggesting a historic paedophile ring may be linked to Downing Street and a former prime minister, MPs have been told.

Labour MP Tom Watson alleged a member of a notorious group was connected to a former No 10 aide'

Am I the only one who thinks I may have been living my who;e life in a parallel (decent)universe.....
how much more sleaze is going to emerge......I'm shocked

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Darkesteyes · 27/10/2012 22:28

Hummingbirds that link...those poor boys.
I was brought up in the Catholic religion and walked away from it as soon as i could when i left home at 19.
I will never enter a Catholic church again. Told DM that if something happens to me i dont want a Catholic funeral because of the bad history of abuse in the church and the mysogyny.
DM insisted that the catholic church doesnt hate women [hhmm]

Darkesteyes · 27/10/2012 22:31

It was actually on itv news (think it was yesterday) that somebody at itv reported js (cant remember which decade) to someone higher up at itv and got laughed at.

MrsjREwing · 27/10/2012 22:33

Too many people use religion to harm people. The problem is the Bible's origional translations are rubbish and modernising and interpreting the content is so challenging, never mind all the scriptures that were chucked.

edam · 27/10/2012 23:04

Good grief, I thought the wholesale abuse of children by the Catholic Church was evil enough, but never imagine they'd castrated children for complaining of abuse. That is horrific.

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 27/10/2012 23:30

There aren't really words for what's in the article about the Dutch catholic church are there? Veghel, which is mentioned in it, is just over 2 hours drive from where Mum grew up.

I don't know for definite that JS did actually introduce that law. There's so much on the Internet quoting it, but nowhere can I find a reliable link to confirm it.

HellATwork · 28/10/2012 01:51

Looks like that law was passed Wynken and it did reverse Clayton vs Clayton in such a way that parents who, even exonerated from abuse, but still the court having ruled their child would not be returned to them would no longer be able to publicise what had happened to them. It looks like only authorised members of the press (card-carrying journalists) are now allowed to report from those types of proceedings:

pinktape.co.uk/transparency/publication-of-information-in-children-matters-children-schools-and-families-act-2010/

HellATwork · 28/10/2012 01:07

Also the more I read about these repulsive people, the less I am surprised like awful stories like the castrations that took place. A sub-set of the pedophiles are sadists - some like to pretend to themselves the children want their advances and as PIE and others campaign that not all sexual contact from adults to children is unwanted - they are the horrible predatory Humber Humberts of this world who kid themselves for some of the time that if children can be bribed or co-erced into sex it is 'consent' without any regard for the fundamental inequality of the 'relationship' physically, mentally, emotionally, sexually and that everything is set up to benefit the pedophile. This type talk of 'relationships' with children - but as in Lolita - that 'relationship' can only last while the child is between their preferred ages. Once they reach 10 or 15 or whatever is their cut off point for attraction, there is no 'relationship'. However for the sadist sub-set no such self-justifications are necessary. Do what thou will does really seem to be their only motto.

Darkesteyes · 28/10/2012 01:21

Good to see you back on here HellatWork x

Darkesteyes · 28/10/2012 01:25

Sally Jones warned by Jill Dando of unwelcome advances.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224162/Former-Minister-Thatcher-aide-paedophile-preyed-boys-home--Hague-known.html

HellATwork · 28/10/2012 01:53

Darkest - that link does go to the Jill Dando/Sally article and yet it looks like it is going to direct to this article which is also interesting (btw JS has already been linked to JD's murder as a 'hit' online but you probably already know that - again how true that is, no one knows because there's nothing substantiated coming out in MSM yet):

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224167/Former-Minister-says-Thatcher-aide-paedophile-preyed-boys-home--Hague-known.html

I just googled "brighton beach" "William Hague" and "5.45am" - the results of which are entirely unsubstantiated but are all over the net regardless

HellATwork · 28/10/2012 02:20

Emmeline: Kincora Boys School
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys'_Home

This was the first book I read when the savile news broke:
www.scribd.com/doc/58261605/KINCORA-SCANDAL-by-Chris-Moore

Thatcher had to remove Sir Maurice Oldfield (C - then head of MI6 - chief Spy) form his post and report to House of COmmons that he had lost his vetting on 23 April 1987 -the rumour is this was because journalists got hold of information that he had been abusing boys at Kincora with others in power and clergy etc. Wikipedia doesn't mention this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Oldfield

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 05:31

Hellatwork thank goodness your back. I was quite worried about you. A touch of the paranoidal about where some of this reaches to.

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 28/10/2012 05:54

A couple of links from this morning's papers:

Former Thatcher aide claims he has seen evidence linking Peter Morrison to North Wales Children's Homes

Did Savile confess to murder?

The list of questions that people need to start answering is getting longer and longer. I am staggered at how links to paedophilia are emerging across all our major institutions including the Government, Education, NHS, Child Care and Protection Services, the Church, the BBC. It's now about so much more than Savile, it's widespread abuse of vulnerable children and the culture that existed/exists that has enabled this to happen.

I do understand why some people are fed up of hearing about Savile but it is vital this runs its course as our children's children will be at risk if this mess isn't properly unravelled.

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 06:05

www.ulsternation.org.uk/who_framed_colin_wallace.htm
Hmm people in dark places knew

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 06:05

www.ulsternation.org.uk/who_framed_colin_wallace.htm

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 08:12

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-533416/Police-inspectors-body-washed-exclusive-beachfront-jumped-ferry.html
On one of the conspiracy blogs they link this police death to the jersey investigation. Anyone know if he was on this case ?

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 08:16

I have just read the murder on in the express. Someone was linking the ripper murder that was outside savilles flat with js as it wasnt in the normal prostitute murder.
I keep thinking of the 65 children's teeth in jersey.

Abra1d · 28/10/2012 08:19

Do not know about Jack Straw, whom I actually quite respect, but HH and Patricia Hewitt must be blushing now, because of their roles in the CCCL.

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 08:37

Gary glitter has been arrested again. Not as high profile as I expected

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 09:23

spikethenews.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/protecting-sir-jimmy-saville-obe-and.html?m=1

Wow has this been posted before?
Who is he?

chipstick10 · 28/10/2012 09:24

The very top will survive, their protection is guaranteed. Freddie Starr and a few other bit part players will take the can.

Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 09:26

HH is quite worrying. She was in power for a long time . I posted a bit of her legislation she put forward that boiled down to if a porn picture showed a chid who was not distressed then it should be legal!

MrsDeVere · 28/10/2012 09:31

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Tipsandshoots · 28/10/2012 09:35

I was searching for info on Allen dulles the CIA bod in conjunction with Maurice oldfield head of mi5 and that clip came up.

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