F4J and a kidnap plot

[Blandmum]

Leo Blair. Nice! Doubtless the fact that his mother is a lawyer made the decission of these mysogenists easier.

Not going to help those decent fathers denied access is it?

I AGREE with you monkeytrousers!!! (falls into dead faint)

Spot on MT and Edam.

They threw out a few extremists - but let's face it, Matt O'Connor, the head of the organisation, has in the past been the subject of an injunction against him going anywhere near his ex because of his unattractive habit of beating her up. Very good influence on his children, that. There you go boys, that's how to treat a woman who doesn't do as you want. There you go girls, this is what to expect from a relationship with a man. And then he wonders why a judge doesn't think he's a fit person to be in charge of children? And it's not just him, it's a whole pile of them.

It's not as if the ones who are left in are all reasonable, gentle, caring fathers, is it? That's why they've been denied contact, quite rightly. No-one's children should be left in the care of a violent mysogynist - even his own.

The only reason a bully like that wants to see his children at all is so that he can remote control their mother - be here at 12 noon, have the children ready by five, don't make plans for next Saturday - for someone who wants to make it unpleasant it's a wonderful weapon. They don't care how their children get trampled on in the process. It's just another means of intimidating and inconveniencing the woman who has dared to say "no" to them. They give fathers a bad name.

Last year at Taunton Carnival, F4J entered a float under a false name, they were I think planning to disrupt the whole thing but were caught. before you say- 'oh it's just a carnival', last time one was cancelled 2000 people (not including spectators) were stranded with their floats until midnight, 800 of them kids on an October night- normally the kids are warmed by the lights, but you have to switch the,m off in this situation. Would have been a nightmare, as they very well knew.

They WERE on route and they were shouting at the kids on our float, couldn't make out what (good old sound system), didn't sound friendly and it upset our kids to see a bunch of Dads there yelling at them. Our kids (ie those in the club) are 3 - 11, not exactly old enough for politics.

I don't know for sure who these Dads are but they don't fulfil any definition of Dad I have. I suspect they're just the idiots who would have hung around Socialist Workers party marches in the 80's or whatever, who happen to have latched onto this group. Not fair on the Dads who have a genuine loss, or their kids.

As F4J fold I bet the BNP have a rise in their membership..one spleen is as good as another

They do seem to have some vile members, that is for sure