Photos of Meth Users (grim)

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Anyone seen this gallery in the Torygraph.

Grim. I had heard the ageing effects of methamphetamines were pronounced but this is .

I think it is the parents fault. Lets face it, they give their children tea and coffee which is a slippery slope to the first innocent spliff.

I do wish people would stop believing this ridiculous notion that an innocent joint leads to heroin addiction.

People who want to use drugs will use drugs no matter what. It is because it is illegal that they have to go to dealers who may be looking to maximise their earnings and so push them into other drugs.
Likewise it is because they also cut the drugs with some very dodgy chemicals that also cause problems.

Finally, just like people that can die from a single peanut, some people can die from a drug. It is not the drugs fault, it is the persons own metabolism that causes the problem.

I agree, stretch. I was just going to say exactly that. Their eyes are - dead. Window into the soul indeed.

jode - parents get their kids hooked on crack because they allow them to have a cup of tea? [boggle]

Are you on crack?

metabolism?

What do we call crystal meth in the UK? I'm not aware that there's much of a problem with it over here.

I did point out that by no means all casual soft drug users will become addicts, but I doubt there are many addicts who woke up one day and thought: 'I know; today I'll start dabbling in drugs, and I'll begin with heroin.'

I think it's rare here bibbity. this is quite an old article but it says: "Though British police have been warned to expect an epidemic like America?s since the early 1990s it somehow never came, probably because of lack of availability and the fashion for Ecstasy, cocaine and heroin. It has been used sporadically as a club drug and by sections of the gay community, but somehow it did not take off as a major drug of choice."

Although this one says it is creeping more into the mainstream.

the thing to watch out for now is K - ketamine. usage is on the rise in a scary way, in certain london circles anyway

i know of some (very young) people for who it is the drug of choice and one guy who managed to quit it recently when his life was going downhill very rapidly

it can cause permanent incontinence and brain damage
evil stuff

I thought ketamine was so 1990s.

(I know someone who had a ketamine problem)

Tea and coffee contain caffeine which is a drug. It is a known stimulant that probably would not, like sugar, pass the testing laws for food that we have nowadays.

yeah so did i - but its on its way back big time

crystal meth is not massively common in the UK but its use has increased because it's cheap and easy to manufacture (unlike crack)

Street names are glass and ice.

can't believe how different they all look, some in just a matter of months

Oh for goodness sake that could be a before and after photo of me on a good night out

actually the worst photo is me before i go out , the first is me the morning after when my make up miraculouslry blends whilst i sleep .
DISCLAIMER: im joking!!!

What is Meth, crystal meth, crack and ice?
I am also worried about Mcat?
Please tell me about K, ketamine and all the derivatives that that Chinese chemists can produce.

ZOMBIE THREAD
I expect you can google as well as us, Harbinger.

I do wish people would stop believing this ridiculous notion that an innocent joint leads to heroin addiction.

I agree Jodevizes - it doesn't mean anything that almost all serious drug addicts started with soft drugs because it doesn't reflect the number of people who try soft drugs but never move onto harder stuff (i.e. almost everyone who tries them). The destruction of these people's lives is tragic but in order to understand it we need to be looking at how society operates on a wider scale. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
I know it's based on lab rats (literally) but the Alexander experiments explain it quite nicely to my mind.

I know a ketamine user through my work and she really is very pretty and looks-conscious. Something like this would probably give her a shock. I have to say, I haven't noticed it affecting her looks past her becoming very thin but if I saw before and after photos side by side like that perhaps it would be more obvious.

Woooooooooo zombie!

Jesse Pinkman doesn't look like any of those dudes

Wasn't it Madonna who said that she couldn't believe clubbers in the UK didn't seem to have moved on from ecstasy to ketamine?

I don't know what a Zombie thread is?
Yes,can Google away.
I am interested in how certain drugs can get under the radar because a chemist in China (usually) atm 'tweeks' the meow etc.

Zombie thread = one that started so long ago that OP has long since disappeared. For some reason MN can't figure out a way to distinctively highlight the text on such (relatively) ancient threads to warn us original content providers posters that it might be a bit pointless replying to OP.

I don't know why you're picking on "Chinese" chemists, Harbinger. We had a meth (making) house on the corner of my nice leafy very DesRes neighbourhood in California back in the 1980s.