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US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in head

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Ewe · 08/01/2011 19:14

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12 others injured, she was speaking at a local meeting, absolutely shocking.

Some reports indicating it is due to her 100% pro choice voting record. V.sad.

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DirtyMartini · 09/01/2011 00:16

Ok so she is still alive?

Hideous :(

DirtyMartini · 09/01/2011 00:18

Palin and her followers do some reckless shit. not saying this was what she wanted, not at all, but the rhetoric coming from her is so fucking dodgy.

Those poor people.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:20

She's still alive, yes. A bullet passed through her brain, so the surgeon is optimistic about her survival, but who knows?

One of her aides is confirmed dead, the 9-year-old girl and Judge Roll, age 63, appointed in 1991 under the first Bush administration.

DirtyMartini · 09/01/2011 00:24

I believe she has two young kids?

Can you have a bullet pass through your brain and recover properly?

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:28

You can have a bullet lodged in your head and recover properly. I knew a guy who had. It was in his cerebral cortex, too. The only residual problems he had 5 years on was one eye permanently crossed and stunning headaches.

Because of where the bullet was located, operating on him to remove it was deemed the worse of two evils.

onimolap · 09/01/2011 00:28

the doctor didn't quite say that: he said her condition was critical, but he was as optimistic as he could be in the circumstances.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:30

Oh yes he did say that, omni. He said he was as optimistic about her recovery and that the bullet had passed through her brain.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:34

veryoptimistic

bulletwentthroughherhead

and well, click on the vids.

it's 12.33AM here.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:35

I'm glad I don't live there anymore, tbh.

I get paranoid every time we go back and go to some place with a lot of people.

But it's a necessary evil because my dad's too old to come here anymore.

So off we got in July.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/01/2011 00:37

his youtube thing was really messed up - especially the video he "liked" - which I think was probably him as it had the same type of writing on the comment.

Just awful

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:37

The gunman is saying he acted alone. But again, it's early days.

thisismyhometownspaper

Comments are unbelievable already.

I'm off Facebook just now because one of my mates from high school lives in AZ now and he's a total right-winger.

Buda · 09/01/2011 00:38

Christ. How bloody horrific. Totally shocking.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:38

I'll bet that channel's already been pulled, Baroque.

I saw it it was whacked.

And he did it with a 9mm Glock.

I have one of those at home.

You have to aim that thing it is a pistol.

onimolap · 09/01/2011 00:42

"We cannot tell what kind of recovery but I'm about as optimistic as it can get in this situation," said Dr Peter Rhee, trauma surgeon a Tucson University Medical Centre.

He said they'd have a better idea of her prognosis in about 24 hours.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/01/2011 00:43

No - the channel is still there - apparently they pulled his myspace and FB - but the YouTube is there still.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:52

it's messed up, isn't it, baroque?

it just didn't make sense, all those posts on there.

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expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:53

the last one was ominous, too, but it's nearly a month old.

who knows?

so sick of hearing about another mass shooting.

my sister and i were joking around, a list of our fears for our children.

you know, drugs, car accident, abusive boyfriend.

but hers includes school/college shooting and cults.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 00:54
Sad
BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/01/2011 00:58

takes more than a month to become a deranged nutter/terrorist though doesn't it?

Like you say - who knows - I guess time will tell.

What a horrid thing for your sister to have to list. Sad

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/01/2011 01:25

Now being reported that 6 have died Sad

MadamDeathstare · 09/01/2011 01:39

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onimolap · 09/01/2011 02:04

Just seen an update: the main culprit has not been named officially, just a 22year old with mental and criminal issues. Police are actively searching for a second suspect.

Casualties: no change since my post at 00:12:01

Am I right in thinking Arizona has the death penalty?

MadamDeathstare · 09/01/2011 02:06

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onimolap · 09/01/2011 02:09

I wasn't thinking of deterrent or judicial policy right now.

One of the dead is a 9 year old girl. I expect many other sadnesses will emerge.

RIP to all who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

expatinscotland · 09/01/2011 10:57

'Am I right in thinking Arizona has the death penalty?'

He will face a federal court first, for the murder of Chief Judge John Roll and the federal employee Gabe Zimmerman, as well as the attempted murder (assuming she lives) of Representative Giffords.

Yes, the federal criminal justice system does have the death penalty but it's up to the prosecution to decide to pursue it.

Federal sentences don't have parole, so whatever sentence is given is the sentence the convicted will serve.

The charge of murder will likely be life imprisonment or death.

The state may chose to bring charges after he's been tried by the federal court for the other murders, but he won't get out of federal prison for the murders of Roll and Zimmerman.