Me again, still pondering over a coffee machine. I have decided on the swan Nordic model, we wanted sage the barista but cannot justify the cost right now. So there is a model which has a milk frother and only has an espresso setting, the other model has a milk tank and options for espresso, latte and cappuccino but no milk wand. Do models which froth the milk for you give a good result? I like the idea of the different coffee settings but think a manual milk frother may be better? Help 