Why does my mooncup hate me??

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Last month I invested in a mooncup. During my first cycle the thing was an are to get out. My poor DH had to extract it from my sobbing body.
However, I persevered because it worked great and is nicer than tanpons.
This cycle I naively thought it would be easier. It's not. After another DH extraction I was seriously considering ditching it.
The problem is, it's in too high. I put it in low and the it's makes it way up throughout the day. I read somewhere that the base of the cup is meant to be no further in than the depth of a fingernail. The bottom of the stem in about as far in as that and even with full finger insertion I can't reach the top of the cup.
Now I'm hurting downstairs, fristrated and yet determined not to have wasted £23.
How can I make the wretched thing stay put?? Help!

I cut the stem off completely. The base of the cup sits just inside me. You don't need to reach the top of the cup to remove it. Just pinch the base slightly and twist it out.

I cut the stem off totally too. It was the only way it wouldn't protrude and Burt me.

As long as you can reach two fingers in enough to pinch the base of the cup and break the seal, you don't need the stem.

I can never reach the top of the cup, only every to the ridge just below.

If it's sitting too high then try pushing, like you are having a poo.

If you find it does work its way up, bear down like you are getting ready to birth it then squeeze/pinch the bottom to break the seal. Makes it much easier to remove.

Hurt me, even.

I don't like the sound of being Burted by a mooncup at all!

But because it disappears up, I can't reach the base to squeeze it. I'm too scared to trim the stem off because I need it to pull

Did you buy the correct size?

When it works its way up, sit on the loo and hold stem and do sort of little pushes to move it down. I do this without the stem, can still grab it. So sort of push and gently ease it down
Or having a poo moves it down if you're really stuck

But because it disappears up, I can't reach the base to squeeze it

Really? You should be able to touch your cervix, and there is no way it's got beyond that.

I suppose I can reach the base, just not at an angle that lets me squeeze and twist.
At the risk of sounding disgusting, would I use my fore and middle fingers to do the squeezing? I think I've been trying to use thumb and fore finger and all I can reach is the bottom of the stem.

I have the size that's pre 30 without children because that's me :)

I'm sat here trying to work out which I use
Umm whatever fingers you can grab hold of it with I guess. I think I use thumb and second but I can always reach it no matter how high it goes

I found cutting the stem off completely worked well. It really irritated when it was longer as it kept jabbing me.
Also don't put it up high - I had trouble when I put it as high as where a tampon sits: the mooncup sits quite low, almost coming out really.

I use my thumb to compress, break the seal and then pull, using my forefinger and middle. I don't try and get all fingers up without breaking the seal. Maybe press with your thumb first, against the side, then use your fingers to pull the ridge you create.

It took a few cycles to get it right and to understand how low to wear it, but it's been amazing. If you're getting sore I'd leave it for a cycle. You don't want to give yourself a uti.

I use the one for women without children, as I had cesarians- that's the small one. I got a "diva" cup as well, and it's softer silicone, so maybe try a different brand if you're not getting along with the mooncup. They do take returns.

Burted by a mooncup sounds most unpleasant

Thanks Underbeneathsies, I'll try with my thumb. I've also emailed mooncup and they seem quite helpful :)