Rose cuttings leaves crinkling

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I took some rose cuttings about four weeks ago. I covered the pot with an upturned fatball bucket instead of using a plastic bag for humidity. They are in a partially shaded position.

The leaves were growing well and I was worried they'd be getting too much humidity so I took the bucket off for a few hours and when I put it back on I put it on supports to let some air in from underneath. After a day or two the leaves are now crinkly 😩

Have I taken the bucket off too early? Should the leaves have been bigger? Can these ones be saved and if so what should I do now?

Far from an expert but I would get them into full shade for now and hope for the best. I think sometimes they will lose their leaves but still root eventually. Unfortunately it is a waiting game.

I’m having a go with Akadama in plastic cups with holes at the bottom. Cuttings in about a third of the way down, cups stood in shallow tray with about an inch of water in and put in the shade. One has rooted so far from mid July, a couple of other are thinking about it. They are all from new roses so less than optimal for cuttings so am very pleased with the one I have and hoping it transitions ok to soil from the Akadama. My attempts in coir at the start of July have failed I think though some have calloused.

In the past I’ve had success within hardwood cuttings taken late in the year in besides the mother plant over winter. I’ve just bought some root riot cubes and a cheap grow light and am going to try some in the house . I am determined to have more roses one way or another !

Thank you @Seaitoverthere , I'll try and find a more shady spot for them. One or two of the leaves seem to have perked up a bit since I posted so I haven't given up quite yet. I'm going with your suggestion to wait and see.

I hadn't heard of Akadama, it'll be interesting to see your results. That does sound fast rooting from a mid July cutting already. Good luck with increasing your stock 🌹

They won't have rooted yet. I'd leave them somewhere shady til next Spring before checking for roots.

Thank you @AlwaysGardening , I noticed that with some Kerria japonica cuttings. They had lots of leaves and looked like they were really going for it and when I took them out of the pot I was shocked to see no roots. Lesson learned. I will try to be patient 🙂

16th July my cuttings went in. First sign of roots after 4 weeks on one cutting and a second from another variety has roots this weeks. Using clear cups you can see them so know what if anything is happening.

They then need to transition from the Akadama to soil successfully which is where I am at now with cutting number 1. Number 2 is staying in the Akadama until root system is bigger.

There’s a great Facebook group called Rose Geeks Propagation that I’ve found very helpful to read.

This picture was taken on 19th August on the cutting taken 16th July. It is a retired D A that was planted bare root earlier the year.

Thank you @Seaitoverthere , your results are encouraging me to keep the faith. I'll have a look at that FB group. Much appreciated

Let me know how you get on 😁 I cut at a slant under a root node, have a cutting that has 2 or 3 nodes in length and leave a set up leaves at the top. Scrape the bottom of cutting a bit opposite the bottom node and into Westmoreland rooting gel then into the Akadama .

They don’t need covering and it’s just keeping a little water in the tray the cups are in. I’ve had a couple that have rotted but fewer than in the coir. Early days for me yet and I hope by this time next year I will be better at it and have loads of baby roses 😁

Have some 0.5% IBA rooting powder to try in the absence of being able to get Hormex #8 . Some people find Clonex works well but I’m going to try the IBA stuff mixed with some freshly cut aloe Vera and see how that goes.

I haven't used any rooting powders or gels. I've had success with this rose before but hadn't used anything to increase humidity so that's why I got myself in a tizz with the on/off bucket. And I can't remember what exactly I did before. I should keep notes.

I think I cut straight across at the bottom and a slant at the top. They say on Beechgrove that's so you remember which way is up if you drop them but I always assumed it was so the rain (if it's not kept off with an upturned bucket) wouldn't sit as it might with a straight cut.

I will keep you posted @Seaitoverthere and look forward to hearing how you get on too