The world of Epstein

[Emptyandsad]

Interesting article about the world that Epstein operated in. It won't really be a surprise to anyone, but it articulates the reality very clearly

As you say it's no surprise.

It makes me so angry. And depressed.

Polite hosts used to ensure their homes were full of ashtrays. Or, for some, the human equivalent, of conveniently placed available female bodies, just in case the guests wanted to use them. Hence the Christine Keeler case, which came to attention only because one of the ashtrays was being used at times by someone with spying links.

This is a great article.

I will add the caveat that a few powerful women were involved with Epstein. Notably this one :

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/12/goldman-sachs-lawyer-resigns-jeffrey-epstein

Hillary Clinton also...and certainly Fergie.

This bit :

'Without women observing their behaviour, the men are uninhibited in the way they communicate with each other, frat-boy-style tones unchecked. “By the way,” the Emirati businessman Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem messages Epstein early on a November Tuesday morning in 2013, “the Ukrainian and the Moldavian arrived. Big disappointment the Moldavian is not as attractive as the picture.” “Photo shop,” Epstein suggests. “Not only that she was too short and skinny,” Bin Sulayem replies.
Is this just standard locker-room banter? (How can women who aren’t normally allowed in these spaces possibly know the answer to that?)'

• on this, I would say that obviously most men are not involved in Epstein style rings, but that kind of language is hardly rare. Male forums aren't a perfect substitute, but there's plenty of threads on Pistonheads or male-dominated sections of Reddit which talk about women & sex in a similar way.

Except Hilary Clinton had no involvement with Epstein. Bill, yes. But everyone knows he’s sleazy.

@Carla786 Hilary Clinton was not involved and whilst Fergie was involved she was involved in a rather a different way to her idiot husband or indeed any men.

Hillary wasn't involved? I'm very sorry for the wrong info.

Otoh Fergie was not abusing girls but she surely knew what was going on?