The Anxiety Club- part 3!

[blissa]

Couldn't think of a more imaginative title!

Hi girls

I posted a reply on the other thread and now it's too big to reply to, so here we are a nice sparkly new thread!

xx

Morning all-up very early again but am sitting drinking my cammomile tea and have been trying to read to take my mind of the anxiety! I hope everyone is ok

Ah thanks mini!

Does anyone on here have depression? I dont know whats going on with me at all lately, i can do tesco, and the big shopping mall which i havent done for years. Both places i can go to ALONE major improvement. But still wobbly about meetings with people like parents meetings etc.

Im having these wierd feelings ive never had before and its scaring me I feel i cant cope with anything. Everything is too much and now i can do the nursery run with no panic which is fab, i look forward to chatting with the mums but some days this feeling comes over me where i really feel i have no energy to talk to people, or even be around people I feel sad and cry really easily lately. Last night i had a panic that im going to lose my mind or something

Yesterday DH took DD1 to tesco and she often tries to run away so i make sure i hold her hand near the roads but DH took her, So this horrid image popped into my mind of DD running off into the road and getting hit by a car I saw the image of her on the floor with blood and everything I know its stupid, its just my broken mind!!! But it was still distressing

I think im not as afraid of going out as i was a few months ago, but now its like i dont have the energy to go out, dont feel like it..i feel something is not right, i feel unwell

Does this sound like PND? I had it mild last time and didnt get help, it lifted after 2 years. I dont remember how i felt really..am worried its PND..

Thanks for reading x

Hi neverenough,
I have had awful thoughts where I imagine jumping out of moving cars, imagining doing horrible things, car accidents etc. It isn't nice but you aren't going mad. I think that is all to do with anxiety. I have no idea about depression or pnd - I had some awfully down days with my anxiety when I just spent the day in bed crying - but I don't think that was depression - just impact of anxiety?
Sorry not being much help - just wanting to let you know that you are not the only one. Have you read the symptoms list on the nomorepanic website as they have a long list of physical and emotional symptoms linked to anxiety and that might reassure you. Hopefully one of the ladies might be able to come along and advise you on pnd. xx

Hi to blissa and mini xx

Ah thanks piggy, you help me a lot! I will read those symptoms. I think my anxiety since having DD2 6 months ago has been so severe that maybe you are right, it is just impact of anxiety. Will have to see how it goes i think.

Hi blissa x

Hi all

Neverenoughmetime-My dd2 also starts school in september.I am dreading it as i will be lost during the day and i work 4-8 so will barely see either of my girls then.(maybe we can hold hands sept?)
You do sound depressed to me and i am sorry you feel like that.I have depression (nothing right with me)but most of mine is a result of the B.D.D.I completely relate to you saying you are worried you are losing your mind.I said this recently to my Psychologist and she said that i will not because i will choose to manage and be aware of my mind.I often think horrid things and
i often see suicide as a comfort because to me its a solution to all my problems.
Maybe you should mention your feelings to your GP NEMT?(sorry if you already have)
Is your GP sympathetic?

Im fed up tonight (for a change[hmm)
In pain still and got anxiety because we brought a caravan today,even though we wanted one so wtf?

Good morning all-wide awake again at 5am worrying so I thought I'd read everyones thoughts here and try and distract myself.

Neverenoughmetime..I'm so sorry that you are feeling so low at the moment.
I understand how you feel though. I saw a psychiatrist a couple of years ago and although I told her that my main problem was the acute anxiety and panic attacks she said she thought that I had an underlying depression.
I expained that I felt as though the awful feeling of being acutely anxious and being unable to relax and enjoy every day events was making me feel down and depressed but that I wasn't convinced that depression was the cause. I hope that makes sense!

She wanted me to take anti depressants but I refused although I know some people who have tried the medication and they say it has helped.

I have never had post natal depression but I do know that I have been far more highly strung and tense since I had my 3 children.
Have you got a good GP? It might be worth going to see your doctor and explaining how you feel.

I have got myself completely wound up as my son is travelling abroad soon to meet up with his new girlfriend's family.He has never flown alone before and I have been really anxious for the past few weeks ever since we booked his flight.

Every morning I wake up thinking "what if"? My husband has tried to reassure me-he is different to me and pretty calm and rational and doesn't really understand how I feel when I am so scared and anxious.
I really sympathise with you and hope you have a better day today.
Thanks for listening everyone and sorry to ramble on!

Hi Pelvic, yes we can hold hands in sept when our babies start school Im going to miss mine so much and it will be hard for you too seeing as you work 4-8. Thanks for sharing the comment from your psychologist, thats very helpful and has calmed me a little. I have my first appointment, an assessment i think in 2 weeks with a psychologist. I dont know where to start. I dont know what the problem is, if they ask me to tell me about the problem i wont know what to say I cant gather my thoughts or think straight, i forget what my point is while im talking!! I hope they ask questions rather than make me explain...
I know i should see my GP but i dont want to I know i will cry when i start talking and i dont know what to say! They will think im a loon..cant talk about this without getting upset! I just dont feel right lately. Im scared of the anti-depressants making me feel dizzy and unwell for 2 weeks. Cant do it

Sorry to hear you are fed up and in pain but its great that you bought a caravan! I would love to! I can understand you feeling anxious though even if you did want it! Were going on holiday next week which i have been mithering DH to book for ages. Now were going im anxious... Oh joy.

Morning mini, Thanks, and thanks for sharing your experience with the psychiatrist. I do think thats what they will say to me about underlying depression, especially as im going to be crying all over their room!!!

I can understand your anxiety about your son flying alone. Have a hug. Im sure everything will be fine and he will have a great time. Get him to call before he boards and again when he has landed to put your mind at rest. You will probably have that background nervous feeling the whole time though because he is away on his own. Come and vent here if it makes you feel better

I have a friend coming round today. One that i almost lost due to this agoraphobia. We used to meet up weekly and then when this kicked in i started making excuses and went weeks at a time without seeing her. I have had to tell her the reason even though i didnt want to because she asked me outright what the problem was in the park and i didnt know what to say and have apologised but feel that she still thinks im out of order and is not very understanding I have invited her round today and she is likely to ask me if im better yet She doesn't do discreet...i'd rather enjoy socialising for a while seeing as i dont do it much anymore but it will turn into question time no doubt...and i will be left feeling guilty and hopeless...

Another happy post from me Haha!

Have a good day everyone x

Hi Neverenoughmetime-thanks for the hug!
I do hope that you enjoy the visit from your friend today.Don't feel guilty..a true friend will be supportive and even if they haven't ever suffered from anxiety/depression they will be there for you.

In my opinion people who have care free lives witout a worry are very lucky indeed.
I'll keep posting here because it does help to let off steam doesn't it?! Have a good day

Hi ladies,
Hope everyone has had a good day. Totally agree NEMT about some friends finding it difficult to understand what you're going through. I've tended to play it down to people and not really say much about my anxiety as I'm a bit embarrassed actually Don't like the idea of being 'weak' ad not being able to cope with life. I think it is actually trying to cope with too much that leads to anxiety and depression, though. Well for me, anyway.
Can't believe how windy it is today! Had a nice day yesterday - got hair cut into longish bob and got highlights and got bikini line waxed as well (been a while since that was done )
Is the camomile tea helping at all with the sleep mini?
Hugs all round xx

Hello

NeverEnoughMeTime-Regarding the Psychologist ,he or she will ask you questions and they will lead you to talk.Dont worry about knowing what to say,dont think about it.
Are you paying privately to see the Psycholgist? or has your GP referred you?
Why do you have to go on AD's ?
I dont take any as there are more cons than pros for me.I.m.o talking to a psychologist is more helpful.

Piggymad-You sound very glam

I had a very revealing C.B.T session today.
She got me to talk about my sister and my childhood.It seems that my fear of people and fear of being laughed at by society could stem from witnessing my sisters illness(serial mental health probs and eating disorders) and associated behaviours and peoples reactions to it.So feeling pleased that the psychologist is so good.

Hows everyone else?

Morning all-up early again but have been reading and have the TV on to try and takemymind of the anxious feelings.
Your hair sounds good Piggymad and I'm glad that you had a good day yesterday.
I drink the camomile tea every morning to try and settle me down a bit.I can always get off to sleep at night easily and feel ok at bedtime-it's the waking very early around 5am and feeling very twitchy and anxious every day that is getting me down.

How did your visit from your friend go yeterday Neverenoughmetime?
Pelvi-how long have you been having the CBT? That's interesting to hear the link between your fear of people and your sister's illness.

I'm off to get some more camomile tea! Hope you all have a good day

Morning ladies,

Piggy-glad you had a lovely day and a nice hair cut Hope you feel ok today.

Pelvic-thanks for that. Im really looking forward to seeing my psychologist after reading about your experience. I have had this for 17 years now and am looking forward to talking to someone and having them find out what is going on in my brain! Im glad you had a good session and it looks like you will get to the route of your problem, thats great. Let us know how your next session goes. My GP referred me, not private. I dont have to go on AD's it was suggested by the doctor but i took the propanolol instead. Ive felt really bad the last few days so considered it but dont really want to go on them.

Mini-i feel exactly the same as you, twitchy and anxious all day, on the edge iykwim. Worrying me a lot. I made an appointment this morning to see a different doctor to ask for a blood test to check my thryoid. I got my period this morning and feel normal again (but still the same anxiety wise) no black cloud hanging over me, dont feel like im losing my mind or anything...so wierd must be hormones. There has only been 16 days between my periods this month and they are lasting 8 days. They seem to be coming sooner and sooner each month. Im desperately hoping my thyroid is playing up so i know there is a reason for this constant anxiety. I have a few of the symptoms but also have health anxiety so could be imagining it all

Meeting with friend went ok but i was suffering so bad with anxiety, couldn't look her in the face, couldn't sit still, kept having to reach for my drink (went through 3 glasses of water in 2 hours!) just so i could move around a bit, wasn't actually thirsty! Terrible this. I feel like i have made good progress with my anxiety, can do tesco nursery shopping mall parks etc with no panic which is fab. Why do i feel like this at home (my safe place) all the time?! Its starting to stop me falling asleep easily which never happened to me, i could always sleep even at my most anxious. It has to be something chemical going on. I hope they do my blood test. Last doc refused because my periods were regular and normal at the time of that appointment (3 months ago)

Sorry for long rant, feels good to get it out.

Hope everyone is ok today!

miniadventure -I think its been a couple of months now since i began the CBT.I had to wait many months to get it though.
My mom and dad have started drinking Camomile tea .Does it taste nice?

Neverenoughmetime-Hormones can really affect anxiety i.m.o .I find i am usually a lot more anxious prior to and during my period.My periods became irregular so i went back on the pill.It sounds like you need to sort your cycle out which could help reduce your anxiety.

Another thing my Psychologist said to me yesterday was that i need to start doing things and not avoiding because of the fear of anxiety.

Hi to everyone else hope you all have an anxiety free weekend.

Hi ladies,
pelvic - glad to hear the cbt is going well - how is the jaw?

mini - i also find hormones make my anxiety worse - for about 10 days before my period my moods change and i get emotional and anxious. I drink camomile before bed sometimes to help me drop off - that's my problem!

neverenough - i know exactly what you mean about trying to keep busy and doing lots of things when anxious - i get all fidgety! Hope the cbt sessions come through soon - I only had to wait a few weeks for mine on the nhs but i had a fab doctor.

Hope everyone else is well xx

Good morning all-thanks for your replies.I am not too keen on the taste of the tea Pelvic but read somewhere that it is better to replace tea and coffee with the camomile so I'm giving it a try.

I understand how you were feeling when you met your friend Neverenoughmetime. I am the same except that recently I have arranged to meet up with friends and then come up with an excuse and cancelled.A few of my friends know that I have panic attacks so I always tell them why I can't meet up but then I feel so guilty.I also feel that some of my friends get fed up with me being anxious most of the time.

I was told once that I should face up to my fear and stop avoiding stressful situations or otherwise the fear will just build up but I find that the hardest part.

I did have some counselling a few years ago and that did seem to help but we have moved and my new GP has said that more counselling wouldn't help. I tried the Paul McKenna tapes once and used to use them before I was flying anywhere and they did help a little I think.They are useful if you have trouble getting off to sleep but my problem is coping with the awful fear as soon as I wake.

Have any of you tried CD's?
Anyway, I do hope that you all have a good,calm day

Hi ladies,
Does anyone here get palpitations? I get them every so often when I'm a bit stressed or haven't slept well or am hungry or thirsty. Does this sound 'normal'? xx

Hello

Yes Piggy i get so many palpitations then worry about them.They are not pleasant.
I usually get mine when im sitting or resting.
It's the adrenaline from the anxiety ,but it doesnt stop you worrying.

I have had some anxiety today because i did some more googling on T.M.J dysfunction(my jaw) and its all very negative ,chronic doom and gloom.So i am now getting panicky about how i will live with it

Hi pelvic - thanks for replying! My mum says she gets them too (mini panic about them led me to ring for reassurance )

Hope you are feeling better this evening Remember - google is evil! What is the prognosis from your consultant?

Hi piggy

My consultant hasnt said about the prognosis but i will be telling him how worried i am at next appointment.Hope i can keep the anxiety about it under control.

Can i pick your brains about my guineas?as you are piggymad.
We have 2 girls and recently had to seperate them as the one is diabetic and blind and the other was bullying.They now only have contact at floor time each evening,but i think they are bored.Any ideas?
One of them also must have mites as she is going bald over her back.We have treated her with some spot on,will the hair grow back do you think?

Hi Pelvic,
Hope the meeting with consultant goes ok - I think it is hard not to get worked up about things so far in advance - the anxiety just builds and builds

Re the piggies (bless the poor blind diabetic one) I had to separate my little one from his fat brother too as he was being bullied - he is thriving on his own! I put things like cardboard tubes in and fill with hay so they have to pull the hay out to give them something to do, wooden bridges or tunnels are good for gnawing on and they have hay balls with a bell on the bottom. To be honest, mine are quite lazy and sleep most of the time but they do like a little run around (apart from one crazy rescue pig who bites on the bars of his cage continuously but fights with the others so needs to be on his own - do feel sorry for him!).

Maybe if they are lonely you could keep them in the same cage but separate them with some plastic or metal grid so they can see each other but one can't bully the other?
Ours still has a bald patch from mites - we put a spot on on him and we also have anti-bacterial small animal shampoo. If it gets red and sore you can put vaseline or sudocrem on.
Sorry for piggy rant

Thanks piggy

I may (weather permitting )go piggy toy hunting at a car boot tommorrow.I never thought to stuff the tubes with hay before.
They are both lazy piggies but the one just looks sad and bored sometimes.

Well hello everyone, I am back from my holidays and we had a fab time. The weather was really hot and the kids had a great time. Got back late on Friday night, so just trying to catch up on laundrey at the moment. Feel very relaxed at the moment. Have to read back the latest posts so give me time. xxx

Hello out there ladies, Hope everyone is well and anxiety-free!
Kildare - glad your hol was good - where did you go?
Pelvic - how are those little piggies?!
Things ok here - had a mini meltdown earlier after cock-up of dates at place we've booked wedding - hormones and wedding-planning do not mix!xx

Mornign Ladies, How are you all???

Sorry i've not been around for a while. Been busy out and about with DH and DC tryng to fill the summer hols! My sister is up from England this week so its been nice spending time with her and her family! Most the holidays have been anxiety free

Pelivc - sorry to hear you are worrying so much about your jaw! I hope you can get something done about it!

Piggy - I get palpitations too, also usually when I am sitting relaxing. i just let them pass, but agree that they don;t feel so nice! All part of the anxiety - huff!!! What is the wedding date Piggy?? I got married when my DS1 was 3 months old so was planning the whole way through my pregnancy. The wedding was planned first, so to be fair most of it was booked before I found out I was pregnant! We had DS christened on the same day

Kildare - So glad you had a nice holiday and are feeling relaxed! Where did you go and how did u manage the flight??? I would love to get away, but flying is the only thing holiday me back atm

Big hello to everyone else!

x x x

Hi Yommy,Piggy and everyone! We went to Spain for 2 weeks and had a fab time. Totally relaxing! I don't like taking off, once we are up in the air I am fine. Landing I don't mind either. Basically my DH holds my hand and I close my eyes when we take off and then I say to him " Are we up?!!!" DH is very calming, thank God!

Lola - Congratulations on the birth of your baby son! I love the name.x You probably don't have a minute to yourself but try and rest up when you can, easier said than done

Piggy - How are your palpatations? I've had them before, all anxiety related. Just take a deep breath hold for 5 seconds and slowly release. Really helps.

Welcome to all the new people

Talk later.xx