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Support thread for those abused (whatever the abuse)

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adelicatequestion · 22/01/2010 17:27

There seems an opportunity here to join together and provide support for each other wherever we are on our journey to recovering.

Post whatever you need, ideas, coping mechanisms, books you've found helpful, therapy techniques .....and anything else.

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rhksmum · 12/03/2010 09:07

Keziah I'm on quetiapine
When I first started it I was like a zombie, it did settle down though and I am on the highest dose now. I dont find it helpful anymore, the intrusive thoughts are there all the time and the things I'm seeing are getting worse. I know a couple of people on it and it has helped them alot.

Saw psychologist yesterday which was really hard. They are moving buildings next month and psycholgist is gonna be split between 3 different places which really scares me, but not alot I can do about that.
Session was really difficult, I tried to tell her some of the new memories I'm having but I couldn't say it all, but I know I'm trying to push her away, trying to make her hate me, be disgusted with me but she doesn't seem to be doing that. Had to phone her when I got home as I was in such a state, almost begging her to make it go away, to make it not be here, but she couldn't(I knew she couldn't, but a small part of me hoped she could).

Lost the plot with my oldest last night, he always seems to 'forget', he's so careless, has lost the front door keys, his glasses, his ipod but he doesn't care. Had a letter home from the school because he keeps 'forgeting' to hand in his homework,his teacher has basically washed her hands of him as she has tried everything, so now he's grounded until his exams are finished.

Mothers day this weekend and I'm dreading it, my kids always make a big thing of it but it just makes me feel sick. I know I'm not like my mum but in some ways I'm not much better. I dont know, think I need to go back into hiding

willsurvivethis · 12/03/2010 10:54

BTW have fired off a complaint to Ch4 as they broadcast a clip of the comedian Frankie Boyle in the Alan Carr show saying

'All paedophiles have a beard and glasses,. what is it about that look that children find so sexy'

That is just beyond it. Is there even one among us who does not struggle with being to blame, guilty, my own fault etc?

Children don't find anything sexy - they don't know what sexy is

But yeah mine had a beard and glasses so there's that impact of this joke too

poshsinglemum · 12/03/2010 20:59

Is it possible to take an abusive partner to court. One which destroyed your mental health and career? What evidence would you need?

willsurvivethis · 12/03/2010 21:27

Hi poshsinglemum - it is possible but whether it is straightforward is another matter. Evidence that he has done something that is against the law may be difficult to gather if you're not black and blue (not fair I know).

What is it you would want? You want him punished? Compensation? Keep him away from you?

You need to get some advice about your situation. Go and see a local solicitor. Most do half an hour initial advice and if they do legal Help you can get more free advice if your income is low.

Victim Support is a good source of information aimed at you. There may be other options rather than taking him to court that can help you move on in your life.

willsurvivethis · 12/03/2010 21:29

I'm too tired that last bit was garbled - back to work was dubious move!

What I meant was that victim support only supports victims and can look at things from your point of view. And they may have ideas about ways to help you move forward if going to court is not feasible.

Keziahhopes · 12/03/2010 22:47

Hi, the queitipane is a one week dose apparently to help me through a "traumatic time" my cpn told me ... only mid dose I found out. I guess am scared willsurvivethis because already my prolactin is too high to conceive (and am struggling to see the right people at hospital) and worried about anyting else stopping me have child number 1.

Rkhsmum - sorry the quetiapane not helping you so much now, could you tell them that?I am on the top dose of venlaflaxine xr(when came off that I had to go back on cos of rebound affects, yuk!)which works better than any other AD for me, but stops my brain from working so well at sucht a high dose/

Willsurvivethis - great that you not have long to go with job, but have till June to sort something else out. I work part-time too. I just took this week off ill, have an ear infection and chronic problems due to colonoscopy last week, so didn't feel bad doing it, as I did not miss any days off for 3 minor operations last week!!

rhskmum - tough with homework and so on... does a reward system work any better? or school emailing you his hwk so you can keep an eye on it, or does the school post all hwk on their VLE (new system all schools should ahve soon)?

Keziahhopes · 17/03/2010 22:41

work is so hard, getting sentences out that make sense. Did 11hs straight, no time for food and only one drink (oh well, no time wasting going to toilet!) so stopped quetiapaine.

Feel keep saying wrong things, so trying not to talk because when I did actually try to make an idea it was not taken very well, and quite rightly I was told by boss to go awaysy. as they were dayy.

Hope everyone had better days today.

rhksmum · 18/03/2010 20:04

I'm wobbling
really struggling
dont know what I'm doing from one minute to the next, nothing feels real anymore

Had psychologist this morning, let her read what I had written, really wish I hadn't
She spoke about how I feel about hugs, how as much I would like a hug I was terrified because a hug to me means something different to what it means to her. I struggle to even hug my children, I do it but its soo hard. She said I need to be good to myself, maybe start by rubbing my hands, something that will make me feel comfortable.
When I got up to leave she touched my hand I wanted to run, I needed to get out of there, I couldn't let her touch me, she's too nice, by touching me I've made her unclean, I know it sounds stupid but then thats me all over just now

Hope everyone else is doing ok

adelicatequestion · 20/03/2010 02:47

ok, so I've reported him to the police

Now it all begins............

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silentcatastrophe · 24/03/2010 17:44

Wow! Well done! I hope you get all the support you need both here and in RL.

My brother came to stay for a week. His life is in the kind of muddle I am so familiar with,but there are big differences. I think he still hopes that Mum and Dad will behave towards him better if he keeps trying to be nice. I said to him that he must keep away for his own sanity. He doesn't see Dad in the same light as I do, and he thinks his problems are more genetic than anything else. No. I don't think so. You don't get 3 children all with the same crushing lack of self-worth through a gene. This brother does not see himself as having been abused. The other one kind of does, and acts it out through rage and alcohol.

Sorry I'm rambling and not being very articulate. My parental family have HUGE issues with boundaries. My parents still allow my alcoholic brother into the house, drunk, and to drink the house dry then smash things up. He is married to a paranoid wreck.

Paranoid wreck is allowed into the house to drink everything and to vent her delusions too. She is Catholic and very paranoid about paedophiles. Rather apt at the moment. I have heard my father banging on, putting the sanctity of marriage above the people involved. It makes me mad that the Pope should put the sodding church above the people who use it. Then lie about the behaviour of its priests. And lie some more. Again and again.

TheGeneGenie · 24/03/2010 23:58

I'm a new member ot this forum i'm male in his early 40's. I suffered from abuse when I was younger and its effects lasted a long time. It took me to the edge of a mental breakdown and several attemtps at suicide before I even got my head around why I was standing at the edge looking down..

But it has past, it is finished and I have no longer any issues talking about it, describing it in detail when its relevant, understanding it and more importantly than anything else accepting that it happened and I am past it.

Now I could write ten thousand words about the things you could do, should do, might do etc to make yourself feel better, but in truth they are the things that worked for me and me alone - i.e. there's no 'one size fits all' way of overcoming abuse.

But I will say this and this is true of the many people I now work with overcome their abuse, from men who have been raped to people living with years of emotional and psychological abuse, there is one thing you have to do.

First, reject completely the label 'victim'. If you can step away from that mentality and do nothing else, you will start to regain your freedom of mind and control over your life. The whole notion of 'victim support' of treating you like you are at the 'mercy' of someone else does nothing other that keep you in the place where you are small and 'they' are in control. It leaves you powerless and weak, vulnerable and not in control of your life.

Change this one thing and you will move a mountain in your life. Then you need to do this. And I know some of you will read this and inside yell at the monitor and 'hate' me for saying it, but it needs to be said.

You can cry and scream for revenge, you can rage for the rest of your life at the injustice of your 'stolen' childhood, teenagehood, virginity, your bullying, your daily racial abuse, domestic violence, what ever it is and you can keep doing it until the day you die, it won't change a single solitary thing.

If you want to move on you need to resolve your issues surrounding anger, rage, frustration.. what ever it is you live with, it needs resolving, all the bits, all the parts, the niggly feelings, thoughts and issues that arose from it. You need to resolve them.

Then you need to resolve this. What are you going to do with the rest of your life? Are you going to stay a victim, or are you going to be the one who walks away and lives their life on their terms, free from any emotional damage, free from the bad dreams, insecurity, low self esteem, fear and all of those things that you know you have right now.

You have to resolve them - every single piece of it needs to be resolved and you need to take control. be angry for a while if it helps, rage aginst 'him', 'her', 'them' if you must, 'hate' till the cows come home, but in the end, do something positive for you and live the life YOU want free from it.

Your sense of injustice might be immense, the 'outrage' off the scale, but you have to decide what it is you want from the rest of your life.

I've not preaching some fluffywuffy hippy 'peace and love' bollox here (in fact I hope I don't come as preachy at all - that's really not the intention. I've been there too and it's a shit awful miserable and crap place to be), what I am saying is that YOU can take back control and LIVE the rest of your life on your terms.

Find the help you need, it doesn't matter what it is, or where you get it from, be proactive and get the help you need - it is there. I'll tell you this. The day you say you're sick of feeling the way you do, the day you say you want your life to change, that you can't bear another day like today, the day you say you'll do what ever it takes, go where ever you need to go emotionally, logically and psychologically, this is the day you get your life back.

It may not be easy getting there - TBO, my experience was exhausting at times, but no words in any language in any dictionary can ever describe the moment you feel the guilt, the shame, the anger, the rage, the sense of isolation lift, once and for all.

You can do it, you really can.

willsurvivethis · 25/03/2010 08:56

Hi GeneGenie thanks for your contribution and welcome. I note you've been giving a lot of advice on a lot of threads recently. I'm not sure I find your advice on here totally helpful. There's a number of us on here who struggle to get in touch with feelings, who have no anger issues but a total inability to get angry with the person we should be and who are just totally exhausted with depression. And there is a risk when you write a list of what we all 'should' do that people get despondent and think 'well I can never do that so what hope is there for me'. Would it be an idea to share a bit more of your experience instead?

rhksmum · 25/03/2010 09:54

Psychologist today
Dont want to go, after the wobble last week I'm scared
I sent her a letter after the session and thinking about it now it sounds so stupid and pathetic, but then in some ways thats me all over.

Not had a great week between seeing my lawyer, being made to feel bad by one of my 'friends' and the flasbacks.

Hows averyone else doing?

Keziahhopes · 25/03/2010 21:51

ADQ - hope all going ok now you begun the process of reporting etc.

Hope psychologist went ok for you today rhksmum... and that tonight is better from you. Flashbacks are horrible - mine have begun again since 3 weeks ago... no advice on them, but feel for you.

adelicatequestion · 26/03/2010 17:00

An update from ADQ

I have spoken to the police but some of waht he did wasn;t a crime all those years ago, so they can't do anything with that.

The other stuff they will investigate. My mission is not to go to trial (I don't think there is enough stuff to charge him - all my word against his).

I just want it to eb on file so that if anyone else comes along, they will have a stronger case.

I've also been trying to talk to my mum and she's not having it- thinks I imagined it and keeps saying things like "if it happenend at all"!!

I'm more upset about that than the abuse.

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Keziahhopes · 26/03/2010 23:25

Hi ADQ, it is good that you know what you want out of reporting - the stuff on file.

sorry it is hard talking to your Mum, though it sounds brave. I think if I could tell a relative they would deny anything just to avoid difficult thoughts for themself, or because they didn't notice anything = but that is probably my family.

Hope it gets easier with your Mum

rhksmum · 30/03/2010 17:35

ADQ that's all I wanted to happen when I reported my abusers, it didnt quite work out that way but we live and learn. I really hope you get the outcome you are looking for.

Saw psychologist this morning, spoke a bit about the the kids dad and how I was feeling about him.
She read what I had wrote and drawn and too be honest I came away from the session in tears because I felt like I had let her down, that I hadn't really used the session like I should have.

Spent the afternoon in tears, planning my way out, phoned her back because I was getting to a dangerous point, she was lovely, said that she was worried about me, I told her not to be because I'm really not worth worrying about.

I'm really struggling with this, I dont want to carry on, it hurts really bad.
I dont know what to do or how to do this, the pains are back in my chest and cpn says I have to go to dr's but I cant, I cant bare to be touched, it was hard enough the last time when I ended up in hospital and they poked and proded me, i cant go through that again

Hope everyone is ok
x

Keziahhopes · 30/03/2010 17:49

Just want to splurge somewhere .. for some reason last few weeks when I have been bad the few nice people in crisis team have spoken to me on phone for a few mins, not wanted any follow up and been so different with me.

I have only used crisis team twice really and now have a meeting between them and cpn to basically, I feel, criticise me. I have been in crisis mode last 4 weeks apparently due to my brain opening up about trauma (not that I spoken about anyting as cpn says not to talk and if can't talk to mental health worker have no one else) ---- just want to shut it away, didnt choose for things to come out in my head.

Just don't understand why I am expected to carry on and get a meeting to sort to basically tell me to pull my socks up, but other people are allowed to be in crisis.

How did anyone here cope when thing started coming to light? Appreciate any tips cos dh not coping with me and I am not with dissociating, doing things not good (it is ok am not telling people, I at least can't be accused of attention seeking, just everything else)

-- sorry, just ignore. It is best.

rhksmum · 30/03/2010 18:10

Kezia
I'm so sorry your going through this, I understand about the crisis team, mine were ok to start off with but the last time I spoke to them I was told to stop sying how bad I feel
How do you get on with your cpn?
Will he/she support you in the meeting?
Do you have an advocacy service where you are? We have one here that comes to meeting with you and will support you if you need it.

When things first started coming to light I was with my oldest sons dad, he wasn't very supportive, was interested in my sisters. My youngest 2's dad thought he could 'cure' me of it.

I dont really have any tips on how to cope with it as I have completely shut down and dont tell anyone close to me whats happening.

I hope someone comes along with some good advice soon for you
xx

willsurvivethis · 30/03/2010 18:22

RKHS you're having a rought time again - remember I never tire of listening to you talk about things and you often help me too so you know where I am.

Same for you ADQ x

Struggling here too - work is really stressful, still trying to close office with no help from senior management and it is causing permanent anxiety. Coupled with the first new memories for a while and at least since trip to police it is just no fun. Feel the new memories have tipped me over the edge again.

Just been offered a new job I really like - subject to the funding being approved and that is all delayed due to problems at the Legal Services Commission. Finding it hard even to get excited about that!

rhksmum · 31/03/2010 16:52

I've really messed up my children

My youngest has been getting bullied and today hit back, because the boy called me fat, my son said he had to do it,
he doesn't want me go back into hospital,
he doesn't want to go to England to live with his dad because all his friends are here,
so he has to protect me

He's 9 fgs, he shouldn't have to protect me
I tried to protect my mum from my dad and it went wrong, it all went wrong

And now it feels like history is repeating itself

Just had another tearful phonecall with the psychologist, she mentioned IHTT becoming involved again, but last time it went so wrong I cant face going down that route again. She mentioned a couple of days respite in hospital to try and get a rest but I think if they get me in there they wont let me out.
She's phoning again tomorrow to see how I am but I just want to tell her to stop wasteing her time, I'm really not worth it

Keziahhopes · 31/03/2010 22:02

well meeting achieved nothing, don't know what aim was, cpn spoke in circles - just added to distress. Only thing I know is that even though I don't want hospital or IHTT, they will not give it to me anyway!

willsurvivethis - sorry work stress adding to everything right now. What strategies help you when you feel so close to the edge? I am not good at remembering to distract/self-soothe - but it can help the worst times pass. And well done on the job offer.

So sorry rhksmum that things are so tough ...
it sounds like the psychologist trying to help - could you tell her what might help if you know, and what will not help? Hope tomorrow better for you.

rhksmum · 01/04/2010 08:51

Kezia I'm sorry it didn't go well, is there anyone that you can talk to about this?
Would your GP not help?

I honestly dont know what will help me, I think part of the problem is I dont feel worthy of being helped, I dont deserve to be helped and I guess until I get past that I will be unhelpable

Keziahhopes · 01/04/2010 20:00

Hi - don't think gp can do much. Trying to just forget about it.

rhksmum - you are worth helping... am sure you would say that to others, and if you are helped then you can help people. sorry, bizarre sentence there!

willsurvivethis · 01/04/2010 21:05

Hi all

Keziah glad to see you still post on here even though you're having a really hard time.

RKHS I keep telling you you deserve help just like everybody else and it is NOT YOUR FAULT.

I keep on looking at this thread and finding it hard to post on here for some reason.Things are too close right now.

I thought I was doing so well and the abuse stuff had disappeared into the background until one of my best friends came to see me and said 'you've pulled your shutters down again, please don't shut yourself off again' Another friend confirmed that she had noticed the same thing. No emotions, feelings, not talking about anything. Another chat with one of them had me in tears and that was the end of that shutter episode (in case it makes no sense it is one of my old, strong defence mechanisms).

So now it all hurts and I am so anxious that I fret endlessly about my ds for no reason at all.

My new counsellor is helping me to finally talk about the abuse itself. Gawd that hurts, and while I'm talking new stuff comes out too. Just hope it helps, it has to. I find it easier with her, my therapist was very nice, sweet, I guess it stopped me talking detail. This lady is younger, grittier and has clearly been through something herself and she is good at prompting and gentle pushing.

But finding life hard.