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Support thread for those abused (whatever the abuse)

289 replies

adelicatequestion · 22/01/2010 17:27

There seems an opportunity here to join together and provide support for each other wherever we are on our journey to recovering.

Post whatever you need, ideas, coping mechanisms, books you've found helpful, therapy techniques .....and anything else.

OP posts:
rhksmum · 01/04/2010 21:20

Kezia- your right in the sense that I would say to thers that they deseve to be helped, I feel so much compassion and empathy for people that have been through what we have been through, but I cant turn it roundon myself,

I hate and blame myself for what I have done, for what they did to me, but I dont hate others that have been through similar things.

I have a bunch of voices in my head that onstantly tell me I'm to blame, that I was a tease, and for a while although they never went away they quiet'nd down until mothers day when I spoke listened to my mum on the phone being really horrible and since then the voices have got louder and louder, they are more real than they ever were because before I think it was just how I thought peole saw me, but now I know they are right

willsurvivethis · 01/04/2010 21:45

RHKS they are not right just not

Keziahhopes · 02/04/2010 13:00

Sending warm, safe (((hugs))) to those who would like one today.

Rkhsm and willsurvive this - thinking of you during this tough time you are having. Rhksmum they are not right, and willsurvive this, glad you had friends to help you out when shutters came down.

willsurvivethis · 05/04/2010 16:18

How are we all doing?

Not doing great here and wondering if for the first time I'm actually heading into depression. Feeling so low flat and tired.

Also feel unstable - had a huge wobble when I got it into my head that I had finally managed to chase on of my closest friends away with my troubles which turns out to be total nonsense.

Just wish I could go to sleep - which isn't like me at all. DH also having a bad episode so I feel I'm carrying the world on my shoulders and it's heavy. It makes me feel very lonely - even feel all my friends are far away.

Sorry for the moan...

rhksmum · 08/04/2010 16:17

I think I've messed up
Infact scrap the think, I know I have messed up

I feel like my psychologist is fed up of me,
I think I have said to much or not enough
She's giving up on me I know it and I dont blame her
I would give up on me too

I've got 2 weeks until I see her again as she's off next week
I dont think I can go back, I dont know what to do anymore

willsurvivethis · 08/04/2010 16:29

Off to find you on facebook and tell you off for being silly xxx

Keziahhopes · 11/04/2010 23:01

Rhksmum- you are worthwhile, and sorry psychologist on holiday at a time when you struggling. You can go back, that is help for you and it is ok to struggle.

A positive for me - have learnt that relaxing helps my mood, but not good at relaxing, so went away with husband to a city with nice Spa pools, had 4 hours of floating in warm water (almost fell asleep) and it helped more than anything has for ages. Positivity has lasted all weekend so far.

rhksmum · 13/04/2010 21:45

Realised today how alone I am,
How scared I am to let anyone in, scared they will hate me if they knew the real me

I feel so sad, sad for what I lost, for what they took from me

I feel like I'm hanging off the edge of a cliff and day by day my fingers are falling off 1 by 1. I dont care anymore what he does to me,
I dont care about anything

I want out

willsurvivethis · 14/04/2010 10:54

Hi all

RKHS I will keep talking to you until you see sense - I'm serious

Keziah so pleased to hear you have found something that relaxed you - how are you doing now?

Where's everyone else??

I had a good day yesterday - met with ds's godparents who we cannot see often in a rather idyllic setting and it was good - just hanging out with the kids and the occassional 10mins of serious chat.

Today is rubbish - at work with a cabinet full of urgent work on files and I'm on here go figure. Client due any minute so that will focus my mind.

Have started to read 'The Courage to Heal@ - I have left it so long as it is said to be controversial in places. I read the section last night about doubting your memories and that it can't be true it didn't really happen and it knocked me for six - all my reasonings why it isn't true, all my little sanity mechanisms, described word for word as if someone looked into my head. It's eating away at my wall, I don't like where this is going

rhksmum · 14/04/2010 19:58

spoke to cpn this afternoon, told her how I was feeling,
I asked her when I would get my appointment through for the psychiatrist?
Turns out my normal one who was off sick for ages has now gone on secondment for 6 months, and the temporary one I had seen at the start of the year has now had an accident and is in hospital.
They dont have any other female psychiatrist in the team so I need to wait and see what's happening with the temporary one, if and when she's coming back.

I know I'm going downhill so fast I cant stop myself, not sure I want to either

I want out, out of everything, out of this thing called life if thats what you can call it.

My ex is giving me a hard time, my daughter started her crap tonight
Why do I stay here?
Why do I put myself through this?
The world would be soo much better without me

jetcat · 15/04/2010 20:38

following on from my thread here i am just saying hi

i am really struggling at the moment, perhaps worse than i have done in a long time, and not sure what to say here to be honest, just felt the need to post something

(thanks willsurvive)

willsurvivethis · 15/04/2010 21:28

Hi jetcat

Post as much or as little as you like. As long as you know we've all been through it one way or another.

I have a lot to write about today (counselling) but too worn out.

tasmaniandevilchaser · 15/04/2010 22:07

hi, have just found this thread, have found it very interesting to hear about your memories coming back as this is what happened to me - about 20 yrs after it happened. I've never met anyone else it happened to and thought that it was really rare, but obviously not - you do what you have to do to cope.

Willsurvivethis - think that I read 'the courage to heal' a while ago, and was a bit knocked by what you describe about the part about memories not being real. But now I've seen this thread, I realise that's a load of bollocks. I always think that if people don't believe that repressed memories can happen - then lucky them. They haven't had such traumatic experiences that they had to repress them to cope.

My memories came back 10 yrs ago, so I'm in a calmer place now thank god. Reading your stories and your pain makes me really angry though, especially the parts about families pretending that nothing had happened, which really strikes a chord with me.

I wish there was something I could say to help you all, but anything would sound trite. All I can think when I read your posts, is that you are getting through it - it's hell, but you are getting through it, day by day. And you are all incredibly strong - even though you may not feel it.

willsurvivethis · 16/04/2010 20:45

Hi Tasmanian - until this time last year i didn't know I had been abused. Then I was diagnosed with PTSD due to my son's birth shenanigans and the flashbacks from that merged into very different ones.

I'm a lawyer - and I knew about 'False Memory Syndrome'. I dismissed the memories immediately. I'm still working on accepting them now even though when I started reading about child sexual abuse and the effect it has my whole life suddenly made sense - dh wasn't surprised - he knew all along something wasn't right.

But it is so hard to come to terms with - there are so many doubts and unknowns.

tasmaniandevilchaser · 17/04/2010 19:38

hi wst, it all came back only a year ago? I remember that time as very very turbulent, very raw. In the hope it makes you feel better, I'll say 10 years on I feel a whole lot better. It doesn't define me anymore and I've made some peace with it all. Though it didn't take the whole 10 yrs to get here.

Having children has made me a bit anxious though, I often fret that something will happen to dd and the thought of that makes me angry as well.

I totally understand that feeling of 'everything makes sense now'. That's one of the things that kept me slightly sane, that it was true and I wasn't 'making it up'.

Have to go and sort dinner out now, but it's good to hear from other people in similar positions.

roseability · 17/04/2010 22:58

Hi there

I have a complicated family history and am currently under care of the community psychiatric team. I have an appointment with a psychiatrist coming up and I feel on edge, like I am on the verge of losing it completely

To cut a long stroy short I was abused mentally and verbally by my adoptive father - this I know to be true. However recently some memories that I always interpreted innocently (or repressed, dissociated from?) now don't seem so innocent and I am experiencing what I can only describe as flashbacks which amount to sexual abuse

I don't know if they are true or if I am kind of forcing myself to remember false things in order to justify to myself how 'bad' he actually was - it is very confusing

I am scared but my whole life is making sense like someone mentioned. I am also receiving therapy.

I am happily married with two beautiful children and a nice home. I am very worried about the stigma attached to being under the care of a psychiatrist. I had PND when my first child was born when all this came to a head after a very difficult relationship with my adoptive parents. However I have since realised or admitted to myself that I have always suffered from problems with my mood, anxiety and disordered thought patterns.

roseability · 17/04/2010 23:02

could someone maybe tell me how their memories started to come back? Did you doubt them? When and how did you realise they were true?

I just don't understand how my adoptive father thought he would get away with this - did he not realise I would remember the abuse? What is confusing is that he could be a really nice dad at times which seemed genuine - but then I tend to think in black and white and I need to get away from that

I would like to add that I admire your bravery and courage facing up to your abuse and trying to heal and move on. At the moment I feel like I never will

willsurvivethis · 17/04/2010 23:29

Hey roseability

was me posting about my life making sense

when the memories started coming it was just snapshots looking at it from the outside. I saw my dress, that I was in a car, and then fingers where they shouldn't be. i was just diagnosed with PTSD and though my mind is going mad, I'm having a wobble it can't be true. I told some friends 'I'm having bad memories, different, bad ones. You MUST pray they are false. You MUST. They MUST go away'

They didn't

More and more came out - more and more explicit. The day I sat on the train and remembered being raped I will never forget, and it got even worse. Memories, flashbacks, sometimes just my boy had a flashback without images, with all my muscles tensing. Still happens now and sometimes a new memory still arrives.

The best advice I can give, apart from talking about it with your therapist is to respect what is coming up, don't try to force more out, don't ignore it or push it away. You can't stop them coming out.

And the return of these memories is so painful - why would you do it to yourself

and

The abuse you know for sure you suffered is bad enough for anyone

In my head I have now stopped doubting, I know who did it, where it happened, I know it went on from 7y until at least 10, I know the gross things he did to me. It is all to clear and explicit now. My heart is still ready to doubt because acceptance hurts too much.

sorry what a ramble

willsurvivethis · 17/04/2010 23:31

ouch bad typing

I HAD just been diagnosed with PTSD, I thoughT my mind is going mad and my boDy was having flashbacks

roseability · 18/04/2010 10:02

Thanks willsurvivethis

I am so sorry for what you have experienced in your life, it just seems so unfair

The abuse I know I suffered is bad enough. He called me fat and told me I was a fake and a phoney - that the only reason people liked me was because they didn't know the real me. He controlled my weight, my eating habits and pressured me to succeed in sport to make up for his lost dreams. He sulked, raged and threatened often.

I self harmed and had disordered eating in my teens. I was promiscuous at times as well. I realise now that I always suffered periods of depression and anxiety. My only saving grace was that I got away to university and met my wonderful dh.

My adoptive mum (my maternal grandmother) was passive and enabled the abuse. She too was narcissistic and at times abusive mentally as well. When I showed her the cuts on my arm she pretended it hadn't happened, now she denies I showed her. Tells me this is all in my head - that I have a vivid imagination and I am too sensitive.

I know he was mildly inappropiate at times in my teens - a pat on the bum or a look that just didn't seem right. He would sometimes make me try on new clothes and parade in front of him, make me turn while he inspected every inch of me. Partly to make sure I wasn't too fat but I remember my skin would crawal and I would feel uncomfortable - it felt pervy at times.

The memory which flashes back is from when I was about 8 years old. I remember wanting him to undress me after school. I have always interpreted it as a sort of attention seeking regression in my behaviour. Quite common for children to do. However I remember a feeling of doing it to please him, like I wanted him to look at me - like I was flirting with him.

All this time I took that as gospel until something clicked and I realised 8 year olds don't flirt with their parents. It almost felt like I was enticing him and I know this is wrong. Then flashbacks started (this is the bit which I am not sure is true) of him actually touching my breasts and a sensation that makes me flinch and push the memory away like I don't want to take it further.

I remember how old I was and that it was after school. It is in my old bedroom and I am sure no one else is in the house. He is sitting on my bed and I am standing in front of him.

I have no other memories as such and whilst I am not sure about the actual touching I know he undressed me and I know the sensation of thinking he wanted to look at me. I was always desperate for his love and I was vulnerable.

This is not enough to start making accusations but it is something I have to explore for my own peace of mind.

It is also at this time that I wrote a sex act on a bit of paper which my grandmother found in my bag. My memory is that I had no idea what it meant but had been prompted to write it down by a school friend (who maybe had an older sibling who knew about such things). My parents shut me in my room every night for about a week and made me eat my tea there. They treated me as dirty and inappropiate. I realise now this was an abusive reaction but they were always strangely prudish about sex but at the same time inappropiate - I can't really explain it. When I got my first period my grandmother reacted as if it was something dirty and horrid and made me wear a sanitary pad attached to an old sanitary belt she made. She would not buy me normal pads or tampons and it was terrible

rhksmum · 18/04/2010 18:29

Really struggling to get clean today,
cant get rid of the smell of them, the feel of them
my skin is red raw from scrubbing, cant let anyone near me today because I'm scaredof making themdirty like me

willsurvivethis · 20/04/2010 17:27

Suddenly feeling really really

Someone in chat has started a things from childhood that you still enjoy thread, and it is full of lovely innocent things and I can't think of anything from childhood that makes me feel young, carefree and happy

And then there is the Let Girls Be Girls campaign which is fab but stirs up so much.....

Nemofish · 21/04/2010 21:00

Oooh boy ladies, hope you are feeling a bit better today.

rhksmum you know that you are not dirty, it is the abuse memories that make you feel this way. You were abused because there was something wrong with your dad, not something wrong with you. You just had the bad luck to be born in to that family, not your fault. It's awful that you are carrying around this guilt and shame that he should carry.
You are really going through it at the moment, sounds like really dark days for you, but it will get better. I want to say that it's always darkest before the dawn, which sounds like shite, but it is very true for us, I promise.

willsurvivethis thanks for your help on my other thread. Tis really difficult when seeing those 'lovely childhood memories' threads, I end up wanting to axe grind on them but I know that would bring everyone down. Thread title like 'how wonderful is your mother' sets me right off! How are you doing today?

willsurvivethis · 21/04/2010 21:48

Nemo thank you - ok today. I have been given permission to leave my job a month before I am officially made redundant but I get to keep my redundancy pay so that's a few months grace. It was that or going off sick.

How are you coping, must check your other thread.

When I was at my worst last year (new memories daily, lots of flashbacks, sooo stressed) I went to my bible study group one week (which could be hard as I would get too tired halfway, lose concentration and get flashbacks) and the ice breaker question was 'what is your earliest memory'!! I thought I would implode. The thoughts of my earliest memories (which are the abuse ones) came flooding in. Two close friends who were there too (husband and wife - looked after me a lot)admitted later thinking 'ooooh s*'. Don't know how u got through it. I think I even sang/played guitar later on.

Silly how these things can so throw you.

rhksmum · 21/04/2010 23:39

not sure what to do anymore

Psychologist moves offices tomorrow, what dol I do?
Do I say goodbye to my dad?
Do I say goodbye to her offices
What do I do?

I feel like a dirty tramp

I dony know how to do this anymore

I know I'm a waste of space